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JDPriestly

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3. Whether she can be elected depends on how unpleasant the Republican candidate is.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:51 PM
Aug 2013

If the Republican is really disgusting, she has a chance.

If the Republican is at all acceptable, Hillary Clinton will have a problem.

The establishment in the Democratic Party loves her.

Based on that alone, she should have been the nominee in 2008.

So why wasn't she? Because aspects of her personality cause her problems in relating to ordinary people. She is not an Eleanor Roosevelt. She is not a Bill Clinton.

The 2008 primary proved that she is not a Barack Obama.

We need to think outside the box. My choice is clear.

Elizabeth Warren is fresh. She gained a reputation in 2012 and the years leading to 2012 for being a friend of "the people." She is really likable.

Because of the controversy over her appointment and the excitement about her election and her tough stance on the Wall Street and banking "enemies of the people" (exaggerating but that is how they are perceived by many including many, many people who lost their homes and savings to the trickery of the bankers) have given her quite a bit of name recognition.

I think that among other things, Hillary Clinton is too much same old, same old. Same old ideas. Same old personality.

Hillary is competent which is why the party bigwigs like her. But she just isn't likable. Now I said it. It's sad but true. She is not Eleanor Roosevelt or Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. It's just something that is missing in her presentation.

So I don't want to hurt the chances of electing a Democrat by stating explicitly some of the things I am talking about. But if over all these years, she is still unaware of them and has never corrected them, I don't think she can do it now.

I'm for Elizabeth Warren. I think that Elizabeth Warren would really bring a fresh outlook. She is not all that "liberal," but she is not conservative by any means. I think she has the freshness and the personality to win people's hearts. That's what we need.

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The elites are placing their bets DJ13 Aug 2013 #1
I know, I know ... Scuba Aug 2013 #8
+1 DJ13 Aug 2013 #33
I second that motion. Left Coast2020 Aug 2013 #44
Who, Scuba? Who? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #38
Think about it you burned out old hippie!! Scuba Aug 2013 #42
I'm gonna alert on you. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #43
It doesn't matter. Nihil Aug 2013 #24
Until campaigns are publicly funded, constant campaign mode is reality. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #2
yes, and also until campaigns are publicly funded and candidate info is accessible, $$$$$$$$$ rule. MH1 Sep 2013 #51
Whether she can be elected depends on how unpleasant the Republican candidate is. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #3
I like Elizabeth Warren, A LOT..... groundloop Aug 2013 #4
Absolutely! But let's get the best candidate we can. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #5
Elizabeth Warren isn't running... brooklynite Aug 2013 #10
I sure hope we get a candidate more electable than Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #12
Who to believe... brooklynite Aug 2013 #14
As I said in the post that started this conversation, if the Republican candidate is awkward JDPriestly Aug 2013 #17
She has time to work on warm and humble. CANDO Aug 2013 #19
She has had a lifetime to work on warm and humble. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #21
we better have 2 good people in the primary because republicans will probably do the same thing..... Sunlei Aug 2013 #30
Are you kidding????? Beacool Aug 2013 #47
A whole helluva lot can happen in 3 years. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #39
I would never lift a finger for Cluster Bomb Clinton bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #46
+1,000 Scuba Aug 2013 #9
Can you name one 'acceptable' Republican, let alone one that geek tragedy Aug 2013 #34
Christie could be painted as "acceptable." Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #40
Romney got past that pitiful field of losers by luck alone. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #41
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #6
HRC, another Third Way/Blue Dog/Centrist/Wanna be, like BHO. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #7
I'll go with Howard Dean's choice... brooklynite Aug 2013 #11
who's your candidate? nt MH1 Sep 2013 #50
Here we go again..."Saint Hillary to the rescue of the lost party". Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #13
And your candidate is? brooklynite Aug 2013 #15
Some of us would like to wait for an actual primary and candidates davidpdx Aug 2013 #16
But that's the point...nobody's being annointed... brooklynite Aug 2013 #22
The Republicans probably are doing it, that I agree with you on davidpdx Aug 2013 #23
"Biden, Hinting at 2016, to Speak at Iowa Event" brooklynite Aug 2013 #25
A lot of big name politicians attend Harkin's dinner davidpdx Aug 2013 #26
I have watched the "3rd way" crowd ruin the democratic party. Not again, thankyou! Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #27
The party will not permit ANY non-third way progressive candidate to run"." NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #29
I think it is a shame that these people are already deciding the election before candidates davidpdx Aug 2013 #18
My latest poem.. pangaia Aug 2013 #20
Here's $20, please stop davidpdx Aug 2013 #28
Ok, Ok..I know I will never be America's poet laureate. pangaia Aug 2013 #31
Who controls Priorities USA?..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #32
from Wikipedia: brooklynite Aug 2013 #35
Thank You! ..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #36
And already bought and paid for. blackspade Aug 2013 #37
Non coordination iandhr Aug 2013 #45
Guess what. Warren may not be running, and she's certainly not backed by 1%'er's, but snot Sep 2013 #48
But, since you won't do anything to get her to run...not much of a point. brooklynite Sep 2013 #49
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