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JDPriestly

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21. She has had a lifetime to work on warm and humble.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 09:13 AM
Aug 2013

She lived in the White House for eight years with warm and humble incarnate. She was born in 1947. That means that she is approximately 66 now and will be maybe 69 in 2016. It's kind of hard to change your basic nature at her age.

She has enjoyed the privileges of her current status too long. She is too far from the rest of us.

Elizabeth Warren is at least as intelligent if not more so than Hillary Clinton, but she is fresh. She does not have a rather jaundiced, know-it-all attitude. Hillary does. I think that Hillary was the little girl in the 6th grade who was ahead of the rest of her class, impatient with the others and maybe tattled a bit too much. She identifies with authority. Right now, one thing is pretty clear: the American people do not identify with authority. Whether they are Tea-Baggers or DUers, a broad majority of Americans are not happy with anyone they identify as associated with authority.

It's just the way things are right now. Americans want change. In fact we voted for change in 2008 and 2012. I don't think that there is any way on earth that Hillary Clinton can sell herself as representing change. She was in the White House during the 8 Clinton years, and in the State Department during the first 4 Obama years. What is more, many of Obama's appointees are carry-overs from the Clinton years -- a fact not missed on many Americans. Unfortunately, they are not the carry-overs from the best of the Clinton crowd. They are Larry Summers, Rubin, Panetta, those associated with the problematic repeal of Glass-Steagall crowd and problematic policy on other issues.

Then there are Benghazi and Hillary Clinton's association with the foreign policy of the first four years of Obama and the problems that will inevitably arise from the decisions made during her governance of foreign policy (as they do after every president's time in office).

We can do better than Hillary Clinton. And we might need to. Besides, Hillary Clinton has done enough. We really need someone who can excite voters. She has been around too long. She just has too much history. Americans like new people, new ideas, new, new, new. That is what excites us. Look at how much attention and excitement a total ditz like Sarah Palin got!

So we need a more interesting, compelling, new and exciting candidate than Hillary Clinton. Supporting Hillary Clinton is like supporting warmed over French Toast. It is not a good idea.

Warren isn't running, but I think she could be persuaded to run if the elite of the Democratic Party got behind her. She needs to be vetted very carefully (as does her husband especially with regard to financial matters), but as a personality, she could do well.

And if Warren does not want to run, there are other strong Democrats who could be excellent candidates. Some of them do not like to raise money. That is Hillary's one strong point as far as I am concerned. She is willing to slap backs and flatter and grin and wink and raise money. But it is precisely that quality that might make her very unelectable. We would be better off with a candidate who has someone close, maybe a spouse, who does a lot of the social aspect of the fund-raising for the candidate.

We still have 2 1/2 years to find someone.

We cannot afford to lose in 2016. The Republican right is just too crazy. They are a bunch of Dr. Strangeloves. In fact they make Dr. Strangelove look pretty normal.

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The elites are placing their bets DJ13 Aug 2013 #1
I know, I know ... Scuba Aug 2013 #8
+1 DJ13 Aug 2013 #33
I second that motion. Left Coast2020 Aug 2013 #44
Who, Scuba? Who? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #38
Think about it you burned out old hippie!! Scuba Aug 2013 #42
I'm gonna alert on you. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #43
It doesn't matter. Nihil Aug 2013 #24
Until campaigns are publicly funded, constant campaign mode is reality. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #2
yes, and also until campaigns are publicly funded and candidate info is accessible, $$$$$$$$$ rule. MH1 Sep 2013 #51
Whether she can be elected depends on how unpleasant the Republican candidate is. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #3
I like Elizabeth Warren, A LOT..... groundloop Aug 2013 #4
Absolutely! But let's get the best candidate we can. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #5
Elizabeth Warren isn't running... brooklynite Aug 2013 #10
I sure hope we get a candidate more electable than Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #12
Who to believe... brooklynite Aug 2013 #14
As I said in the post that started this conversation, if the Republican candidate is awkward JDPriestly Aug 2013 #17
She has time to work on warm and humble. CANDO Aug 2013 #19
She has had a lifetime to work on warm and humble. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #21
we better have 2 good people in the primary because republicans will probably do the same thing..... Sunlei Aug 2013 #30
Are you kidding????? Beacool Aug 2013 #47
A whole helluva lot can happen in 3 years. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #39
I would never lift a finger for Cluster Bomb Clinton bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #46
+1,000 Scuba Aug 2013 #9
Can you name one 'acceptable' Republican, let alone one that geek tragedy Aug 2013 #34
Christie could be painted as "acceptable." Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #40
Romney got past that pitiful field of losers by luck alone. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #41
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #6
HRC, another Third Way/Blue Dog/Centrist/Wanna be, like BHO. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #7
I'll go with Howard Dean's choice... brooklynite Aug 2013 #11
who's your candidate? nt MH1 Sep 2013 #50
Here we go again..."Saint Hillary to the rescue of the lost party". Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #13
And your candidate is? brooklynite Aug 2013 #15
Some of us would like to wait for an actual primary and candidates davidpdx Aug 2013 #16
But that's the point...nobody's being annointed... brooklynite Aug 2013 #22
The Republicans probably are doing it, that I agree with you on davidpdx Aug 2013 #23
"Biden, Hinting at 2016, to Speak at Iowa Event" brooklynite Aug 2013 #25
A lot of big name politicians attend Harkin's dinner davidpdx Aug 2013 #26
I have watched the "3rd way" crowd ruin the democratic party. Not again, thankyou! Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #27
The party will not permit ANY non-third way progressive candidate to run"." NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #29
I think it is a shame that these people are already deciding the election before candidates davidpdx Aug 2013 #18
My latest poem.. pangaia Aug 2013 #20
Here's $20, please stop davidpdx Aug 2013 #28
Ok, Ok..I know I will never be America's poet laureate. pangaia Aug 2013 #31
Who controls Priorities USA?..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #32
from Wikipedia: brooklynite Aug 2013 #35
Thank You! ..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #36
And already bought and paid for. blackspade Aug 2013 #37
Non coordination iandhr Aug 2013 #45
Guess what. Warren may not be running, and she's certainly not backed by 1%'er's, but snot Sep 2013 #48
But, since you won't do anything to get her to run...not much of a point. brooklynite Sep 2013 #49
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