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red dog 1

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Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:34 PM

Aug 2013

Good work leveymg!

Apparently President Obama doesn't care if many Democrats in Congress oppose this unilateral intervention against Assad; and they include people like Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla) who is as far from being a DINO as you can get.

I wonder if President Obama has read "A Clean Break"?

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Obama Willing to Pursue Solo Syria Strikes, Aides Say [View all] dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 OP

Without congressional approval? Since when did he become "the decider"? dkf Aug 2013 #1

I am not sure what law it is but doesn't he have 60-90 days before he has to get congressional hrmjustin Aug 2013 #4

That's the War Powers Act. former9thward Aug 2013 #10

Thanks. I agree he should go to congress. I wonder what congress would do. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #12

Same thing they did with Libya. Xithras Aug 2013 #51

Hoping someone can find the answer for me... iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #59

Legal for two reasons. Xithras Aug 2013 #80

Thank you! iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #82

Legally I don't believe it has even been decided by the courts whether the WPA is constitutional or 24601 Aug 2013 #121

The Constitution gives Congress more power over the military than that. Xithras Aug 2013 #122

Enough of them will do... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #93

it appears that Putin is now 'the decider' big_dog Aug 2013 #13

He HAS to consider the cost to Russia if he "abandons" Syria dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #31

I'm going to hate myself for clicking a debka link… but what the heck... KittyWampus Aug 2013 #68

Having one "Decider in Chief" was enough for one life time AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #40

Did clinton get congressional approval iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #48

Wasn't that Bush I? Or are we speaking the of no fly zone? dkf Aug 2013 #50

was bush president iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #53

See below: dkf Aug 2013 #62

Oh , so this is different iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #67

It's not against us. Self defense comes into play in '93 because they tried to kill Bush I. dkf Aug 2013 #69

'self defense' iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #71

We aren't at risk from the Syrians...not unless we go there and put ourselves in danger. dkf Aug 2013 #72

Riiiight iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #73

so was it? wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #92

The party affiliation of a former President isn't relevant. That it was a former President isn't 24601 Aug 2013 #124

This won't be popular among many... philosslayer Aug 2013 #2

"I trust my President. And I think we all should." Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #29

Hey! There are other intellectual giants that agree with you! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #33

Thank you! Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #78

Geez, you Carolina Aug 2013 #85

LOL Skittles Aug 2013 #117

So, if you don't like it, and you know why LibAsHell Aug 2013 #126

Three things: babylonsister Aug 2013 #3

the UN is leaving a day earlier than they originally planned magical thyme Aug 2013 #5

He hasn't done anything yet, so hold your horses. nt babylonsister Aug 2013 #8

As I posted elsewhere, Wikileaks reported Syria attack was being planned in 2012. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #16

Afghanistan was also on the original PNAC list. magical thyme Aug 2013 #19

ahhh..thank you. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #23

they inspected the largest site and the previous sites. The 3 in question are the most recent Assad KittyWampus Aug 2013 #75

iow, the 3 in question are the ones on which the pending attack are based. magical thyme Aug 2013 #112

No, the 3 in question happened after Assad's forces used chemical weapons on civilians near Damascus KittyWampus Aug 2013 #113

He's not waiting at all. Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #81

"The intelligence does not tie Mr. Assad directly to the attack" KamaAina Aug 2013 #6

No. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #35

And he should. jessie04 Aug 2013 #7

Pity the victims of chemical warfare by the U.S. former9thward Aug 2013 #14

+1. grntuscarora Aug 2013 #17

Don't forget the white phosphorus and depleted uranium we dumped on Iraq magical thyme Aug 2013 #21

Yes, hypocrisy thou name is legion. former9thward Aug 2013 #25

And our great ally Saddam Hussein using CW against Iran KamaAina Aug 2013 #32

True...so i guess that makes it ok. jessie04 Aug 2013 #52

We actually gave Saddam nerve gas munitions. Some were found in occupied Iraq. another_liberal Aug 2013 #83

That's how we knew he had WMD. KamaAina Aug 2013 #96

I'm sure. another_liberal Aug 2013 #97

unnamed Pentagon officials insist strike within days magical thyme Aug 2013 #9

but of course they do moonlady0623 Aug 2013 #20

What is this? damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #11

Statements like that moonlady0623 Aug 2013 #22

+1 n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #46

What law has President Obama broken here? JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #61

I'm tired of preemptive war moonlady0623 Aug 2013 #74

BEFORE the British vote, eh? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #42

Jesus Christ. I hadn't seen that yet. arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #125

*GROAN* Brigid Aug 2013 #15

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Speaking of impeachment dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #54

The Repubs are quietly there to support the President when he needs it Hydra Aug 2013 #56

They could, of course, be setting him up. Xithras Aug 2013 #64

He got lucky in Libya, imagine the captured F15 pilots on SyrianTV jakeXT Aug 2013 #106

**** that. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2013 #24

That would be a war crime, and an impeachable offense. David__77 Aug 2013 #26

This would give Congressional Repubs a reason for impeachment, something they now lack. red dog 1 Aug 2013 #116

I don't support cowboying our way through.... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #27

NO!!!! Auggie Aug 2013 #28

An Army Of One KamaAina Aug 2013 #30

The same anonymous WH officials who have been pushing this since March '11 leveymg Aug 2013 #34

+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2013 #114

His political education wouldn't be complete if he hasn't read it. It is the single most important leveymg Aug 2013 #118

Maybe he needs to re-read it! red dog 1 Aug 2013 #119

I'm sure some of his staff are intimately familiar with the details, and he's a good leveymg Aug 2013 #120

I agree 100 percent. red dog 1 Aug 2013 #123

Whats PNAC? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #36

The Project for a New American Century..... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #55

Wtf..theyre nuts!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #60

Yes and.... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #91

Simply NUCKING FUTS! Plucketeer Aug 2013 #37

Why doesn't President Obama put pressure on both sides to sit down & talk in Geneva? red dog 1 Aug 2013 #38

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One problem is that there are not just two sides to this civil war. another_liberal Aug 2013 #45

You are correct. Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #94

is it war mongering yet...? mike_c Aug 2013 #41

Eh, the resolute Obama. jsr Aug 2013 #43

Go George W. Bush one better! another_liberal Aug 2013 #44

ill ask you since the folks above havent answered... iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #57

What President Obama wants to do and what he finds he has to do . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #65

Its always not the same iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #70

The fact remains, Saddam did not use that occasion to launch retaliatory attacks. another_liberal Aug 2013 #77

Why are you citing something from decades ago? David__77 Aug 2013 #86

No, and he was wrong then too Alamuti Lotus Aug 2013 #102

If he does this the republicans will have grounds to impeach him kimbutgar Aug 2013 #49

Yes - they won't return his "looking forward" favor. polichick Aug 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Aug 2013 #58

He's vying for another Nobel peace prize. ozone_man Aug 2013 #66

Somehow I doubt this report. DCBob Aug 2013 #76

So is the idea that Assad would use chemical weapons on his own people at this point in time. fletchthedubs Aug 2013 #87

There is no conclusive evidence that he did. Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #88

Dumb idea. nt ladjf Aug 2013 #79

Gee, I guess Carolina Aug 2013 #84

Amen! nt Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #89

BIG, BIG MISTAKE!!! Listen to me!!! Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #90

NO. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #95

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #98

But, but, but..... he has a Nobel Peace Prize! Surely he would never unilaterally use force!!! Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #99

I think there should be a Multinational Appeasement Prize. MAP for short. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #101

This constitutional law professor says it's unconstitutional. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #100

I scored straight As on CL in junior college darkangel218 Aug 2013 #103

this is about saving face quadrature Aug 2013 #104

Yes. A true statesman would back off. Celefin Aug 2013 #109

Deja vu pettypace Aug 2013 #105

War hawk. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #107

Give back your ill-gotten "Peace Prize," BHO. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #108

What is BHO ? Sand Wind Aug 2013 #110

President Obama's initials Skittles Aug 2013 #111

Oh, ok, Barrack Hussein Obama...nt Sand Wind Aug 2013 #115