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38. So your argument is that, if a thing is being done, that makes it legitimate?

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:10 PM

Sep 2013

So there's no point in troubling ourselves over things like extrajudicial rendition, torture, and murder, or indefinite detention without trial, because, hey, those things are being done, it's the real world we live in, ergo, it's just the way life is? What, then, is the point in trying to fight any injustice? So gender and racial discrimination are endemic, corporate polluters are wrecking the planet, our government institutions are hopelessly corrupt and beholden to corporate interests, the rich get richer while everyone else gets poorer, but, really, who cares? That's the real world, so we need to just suck it up and stop whining, right?

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Report: NSA directly spied Brazil, Mexico leaders [View all] Judi Lynn Sep 2013 OP

Exactly who do they NOT spy on? dkf Sep 2013 #1

Snowden and Manning slipped under the radar. Downwinder Sep 2013 #2

They did it by themselves so no one to communicate with. dkf Sep 2013 #5

Some have set themselves up to be spied on, when you try to play with the big boys Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3

"...from U.S. journalist Glenn Greenwald, who lives in Rio de Janeiro" SoapBox Sep 2013 #4

He's an American citizen. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #6

Um, no. He met his partner after he had moved there. I suspect the NYS and federal tax liens msanthrope Sep 2013 #25

You "suspect." Hissyspit Sep 2013 #30

In that same interview with Out, he described how he met Miranda on a beach msanthrope Sep 2013 #37

That's a crock. Brazil's situation with regard to gay civil rights has been like that of the US -- pnwmom Sep 2013 #33

It's about Miranda coming to U.S. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #35

What kind of logic is that? go west young man Sep 2013 #12

So all Americans living abroad need to shut up and not yap about anything? Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #13

OK. This needs to stop. ellie Sep 2013 #7

Snowden/Greenwald are the Energizer Bunnies of spy scandals. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #8

i'm sick of this guy think_critically Sep 2013 #9

Good old #5 PSPS Sep 2013 #10

typical think_critically Sep 2013 #11

Do you dispute the report of the United States Senate Downwinder Sep 2013 #14

Nowhere in taxes does it say people can data mine me Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #16

Bet you love those spy vs. spy comics? MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #18

My god, you're right! Not only did Obama to "raise taxes," he takes their guns too!!11!1 Right? PSPS Sep 2013 #22

So your argument is that, if a thing is being done, that makes it legitimate? primavera Sep 2013 #38

Hahahahahaha!!!! DeSwiss Sep 2013 #15

K&R DeSwiss Sep 2013 #17

Oh, thank you so much, Snowden and Greenwald. We really needed you to leak everything pnwmom Sep 2013 #19

So you're reduced to saying that journalists should cover up anything embarrassing muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #23

No, you're reduced to having to justify the unjustifiable -- Snowden's sucking up 58,000 pnwmom Sep 2013 #31

"scattering them around the blogosphere"? The Guardian is not 'the blogosphere' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #32

Fine. "Scattering them around the world." That's what he is doing. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #34

I am about tired of hearing about NSA spying and Greenwald's dripping tidbits designed to kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #20

The Feds also retain images of all addresses on all mail pieces going through the Post Office blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #21

This is the part that gets me Rumold Sep 2013 #36

It's for their own good. Octafish Sep 2013 #24

Good. That's the NSA's job Shivering Jemmy Sep 2013 #26

Just in time for the G20. bunnies Sep 2013 #27

so why weren't they spying on Syria too? n/t wildbilln864 Sep 2013 #28

This is not a problem, folks matt819 Sep 2013 #29