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another_liberal

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Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:54 PM Sep 2013

Obama hints at larger strategy to topple Assad in effort to win over Republicans [View all]

Source: The Guardian

Barack Obama portrayed his plans for US military action in Syria as part of a broader strategy to topple Bashar al-Assad, as tougher White House rhetoric began to win over sceptical Republicans in Congress on Tuesday. While stressing that Washington's primary goal remained "limited and proportional" attacks, to degrade Syria's chemical weapons capabilities and deter their future use, the president hinted at a broader long-term mission that may ultimately bring about a change of regime.

"It also fits into a broader strategy that can bring about over time the kind of strengthening of the opposition and the diplomatic, economic and political pressure required – so that ultimately we have a transition that can bring peace and stability, not only to Syria but to the region," he told senior members of Congress at a White House meeting on Tuesday.

Obama has long spoken of the US desire to see Assad step down, but this is the first time he has linked that policy objective to his threatened military strikes against Syria. It follows pressure on Monday, from senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, to make such a goal more explicit. The apparent change of emphasis appeared to resolve some of the political deadlock on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, as House speaker John Boehner and a series of other Republican leaders announced that they would back the president's call for military authorisation from Congress.

There was more good news for Obama when secretary of state John Kerry and defence secretary Chuck Hagel got a relatively easy ride when they testified later to the Senate foreign relations committee, convened in special session to discuss the issue of military authorisation.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/03/obama-strategy-assad-republicans-syria



He really wants his war that badly? He is actually willing to give the Republicans a war almost certain to be long enough to assure Democratic defeat in 2016? Who is this man?
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Strengthen the opposition? LongTomH Sep 2013 #1
There is one . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #6
i get confused questionseverything Sep 2013 #19
After this particular twist . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #23
The US left Afghanistan to its devices after the Rusians left. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #51
Hey that's it. Make friends with Al Queda. That'll work! (the stupid ...it burns) n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #15
Just to point something out to you all but just because Al Queda supports something does not cstanleytech Sep 2013 #43
You don't see anything wrong in Assad being asked to resign? another_liberal Sep 2013 #59
Nope there isnt anything wrong in requesting that he do it and if he truly cstanleytech Sep 2013 #89
Ok then how about we support Hezbollah by helping Assad? Either way we will be helping terrorists. L0oniX Sep 2013 #88
And to think, there are armchairs here who want us to believe Hydra Sep 2013 #2
Old MICDonald had a war, ee eye ee eye oh... valerief Sep 2013 #4
He's going to bring, "Peace and stability to the whole region." another_liberal Sep 2013 #5
"spreading freedom and democracy". n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #17
Spreading it in loud, joyous bursts, all over Syria! Scootaloo Sep 2013 #29
We're the freedom givers! another_liberal Sep 2013 #35
"Bring it on." Waiting for that. "Coalition of the willing" is another I'm waiting for. Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #48
He won the Nobel Peace Prize . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #61
Suckers all. Candidate Obama and President OBama aren't the same person. Sadly. Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #66
SCREWED. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #3
Yep. another_liberal Sep 2013 #8
bring on a peace summit! otherone Sep 2013 #7
If only we had the chance. another_liberal Sep 2013 #11
"win over Republicans" = Bush's 4th term PSPS Sep 2013 #9
Can he really be doing this? another_liberal Sep 2013 #13
+1 Arctic Dave Sep 2013 #27
Well Dave, men are from Mars dflprincess Sep 2013 #44
OK, that was funny. Arctic Dave Sep 2013 #47
I really believe Democrats need to fully consider how this will play out politically. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #63
Exactly! another_liberal Sep 2013 #65
Wish he would stop appeasing the Cons. cui bono Sep 2013 #10
Stop appeasing the Conservatives? another_liberal Sep 2013 #12
I can dream, can't I? cui bono Sep 2013 #21
Then he would have no base grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #56
LMFAO ...still reaching out to those that hate cha huh? DUH! L0oniX Sep 2013 #14
It seems . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #16
Better explanaion: BHO needs GOPee cover to enact PNAC agenda. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #18
That's scary stuff! polichick Sep 2013 #33
Still just playing the "good cop" to their "bad cop" FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #83
Always working hard to win over republicans. What a sham. Ed Suspicious Sep 2013 #20
I will defend the president when the right makes outrageous and racist MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #22
Well said! another_liberal Sep 2013 #26
Whaaaaa...???!!! Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #24
Still wondering durablend Sep 2013 #25
Social Security . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #28
Fine! Will you republicans like me now if I give a war? Arctic Dave Sep 2013 #30
Kiss your once treasured legacy . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #37
I heard someone say that Obama is on track to have the saddest legacy of all dflprincess Sep 2013 #45
I doubt Obama cares about his legacy. He likely has already cut his deals for after avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #49
I feel completely betrayed. another_liberal Sep 2013 #62
no reason to feel betrayed. Obama is true to form. ellenrr Sep 2013 #67
I heard the President speak in person in 2008. another_liberal Sep 2013 #70
I understand, but words mean nothing. Obama is a great speech-maker, but we must ellenrr Sep 2013 #71
Sad, yet . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #72
I think not necessarily sad, if it means that more people ellenrr Sep 2013 #74
Can you be more specific about HOW we save ourselves? FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #85
the first step is to stop looking to leaders to save us. ellenrr Sep 2013 #94
It doesn't seem to matter to him now . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #60
And there it is: The REPUBLICAN pout. FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #84
our president a war monering ass kisser.... bowens43 Sep 2013 #31
It's not necessarily about regime change daleo Sep 2013 #32
Just a few days of cruise missile strikes, folks . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #34
It's ALWAYS been about regime change. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #64
yep ellenrr Sep 2013 #68
Two years he say that, and not only he did nothing to help, but he was a nuisance Sand Wind Sep 2013 #36
He was what he was . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #38
Change the name, and Hope noone notices the similarities. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #39
Obama has been a major disappointment n/t cosmicone Sep 2013 #40
Maybe so . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #41
When will he try to win over Dems? Doctor_J Sep 2013 #42
If he wants to win over the republicans, why doesn't he just guarantee a half a million body count? olddad56 Sep 2013 #46
You don't know what might have been said in secret meetings... FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #86
Disgusting, but not surprising. jsr Sep 2013 #50
MISSION CREEP before it even begins. morningfog Sep 2013 #52
I think its wrong to assume Obama cares if a Dem wins the WH in 16 DJ13 Sep 2013 #53
Keep an eye on this one folks. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #54
I agree they are changing the story, as now the story is "regime change" even tho previously (just ellenrr Sep 2013 #73
OTOH - Kerry said, "no option off the table" ellenrr Sep 2013 #77
In response, Kerry told Corker: “Let's shut that door now as tight as we can". arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #79
-as in no troops on the ground is being asked for karynnj Sep 2013 #92
He then immediately corrected himself - saying to close the door on that speculation karynnj Sep 2013 #91
HAHAHA of couuuuuuuurse! grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #55
for many, Syria will be the beginning of the end of the illusion that ..... olddad56 Sep 2013 #57
I hope you are right, altho, frankly, I think people should have got this about 20 years ago-- n/t ellenrr Sep 2013 #75
And there we have it markpkessinger Sep 2013 #58
If the President follows through with that course of action . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #76
What if Obama threw a war truthisfreedom Sep 2013 #69
Nope..no regime change..not takin sides...shoot off a few missiles only..mission accomplished workinclasszero Sep 2013 #78
Did you hear what Representative Alan Grayson asked Sec. Hagel yesterday? another_liberal Sep 2013 #82
Notice how Obama doesn't give a shit how we Dems feel. Brigid Sep 2013 #80
It is still far better to have Democrats in charge, despite everything. another_liberal Sep 2013 #81
It'll take the Dems just a LITTLE longer to get there FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #87
It may be that he wants a resolution to pass -- and there there are too many Democrats karynnj Sep 2013 #90
I don't know about that . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #93
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