Just think! They could charge exorbitant tolls for passing from CA to OR and vice versa! Brilliant! (Reply #88)

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Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:25 PM

freshwest (53,661 posts)

88. Just think! They could charge exorbitant tolls for passing from CA to OR and vice versa! Brilliant!

They could all retire and be gentlemen farmers from the largesse of the hapless people who have to travel the west coast for a living with this Bonanza:

Yes, I can see it all now...

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122 replies	Author	Time	Post
UPDATED: Siskiyou County supervisors vote to pursue seceding from state [View all]	Jesus Malverde	Sep 2013	OP
better solution: move to Alabama	ZRT2209	Sep 2013	#1
+2 n/t	jaysunb	Sep 2013	#2
Somalia,,,, nt	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#5
Never happen	Iliyah	Sep 2013	#3
Hey!	truebluegreen	Sep 2013	#4
I thought we settle this 150 years ago? nt	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#6
The question is about creating a new state, which is constitutional and subject to the following...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2013	#60
Which raises the question as to the constitutionality of West Virginia seceding from	pampango	Sep 2013	#115
Here is what Abraham Lincoln had to say about that question.	onenote	Sep 2013	#116
Very interesting. Thanks for posting, onenote. n/t	pampango	Sep 2013	#118
meh. it's almost a yearly event somewhere or other in California	struggle4progress	Sep 2013	#117
Don't let the door hit ya,where the good lord split ya!	Rain Mcloud	Sep 2013	#7
Great idea, please do so. That will be $500 to cross the road into the rest of the state.	jtuck004	Sep 2013	#8
Excuse me?	moonlady0623	Sep 2013	#10
"$500 to cross the border? "	greiner3	Sep 2013	#19
Their water? Without the efforts of a lot of other people, and the people who came before them, I	jtuck004	Sep 2013	#25
I believe they're talking about leaving CA, not the US.	hughee99	Sep 2013	#30
EXACTLY	moonlady0623	Sep 2013	#33
Lot of people here joke around ...sorta' tongue in cheek.	BlueJazz	Sep 2013	#73
Whose water? I assume you are referring to the tribes and fish and wildlife?	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#49
That water is a public resource that belongs to all the people of CA,	kestrel91316	Sep 2013	#84
+1	Jamaal510	Sep 2013	#99
Yeah, but I can see where it could be frustrating	primavera	Sep 2013	#119
They'd get tired of paying their own way in a real hurry	DisgustipatedinCA	Sep 2013	#90
Funny you talk about generating electricity.	former9thward	Sep 2013	#93
I think anyone who thinks they are an island should feel free to	jtuck004	Sep 2013	#95
they have a valid grievance	Niceguy1	Sep 2013	#111
A state with one tenth the population of Wyoming.	Pab Sungenis	Sep 2013	#9
This isn't even THAT conservative of a county.	David__77	Sep 2013	#11
wow again	moonlady0623	Sep 2013	#34
I'm not claiming that all secessionists are racist yahoos, just most of them.	David__77	Sep 2013	#36
Southern Oregon -	Hell Hath No Fury	Sep 2013	#41
do the Native Americans in that area want to spllit from California?	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#53
Is this that State of Jefferson nonsense again?	SwankyXomb	Sep 2013	#12
yup	mulsh	Sep 2013	#13
Funny enough	davidpdx	Sep 2013	#23
State of Jefferson	Jesus Malverde	Sep 2013	#14
I think they should go for it. Why not?	suede1	Sep 2013	#15
At 2 senators per state	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#29
God forbid	moonlady0623	Sep 2013	#35
In waht way do you claim that 2 senators for a small rural area would be 'equal representation'?	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2013	#40
Population of Rhode Island: 1.05 million.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#45
You don't fix a problem by making it worse	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2013	#47
I dont see every state having two Senators a problem.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#48
really? WY has 576K people.	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#51
Any WY has 1 house rep while CA has 53.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#56
do you not understand that the senate has power?	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#63
I understand what the Constitution says.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#77
you just said you didn't say it was fair	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#75
The Senate was set up that way...	bunnies	Sep 2013	#76
and that makes it right how?	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#78
It simply makes it the way it is. nt	bunnies	Sep 2013	#79
then what are you arguing, not to change the Senate?	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#80
I never said it would be a decent idea to change OR & CA.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#81
lol ok, after all that, we agree on that part at least	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#82
:)	bunnies	Sep 2013	#85
:)	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#89
right and your state has two Senators	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#55
What?	bunnies	Sep 2013	#59
i was responding to the idea that Siskiyou and surrounding areas get their own Senators	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#64
I was simply pointing out that...	bunnies	Sep 2013	#69
is the Senate democratically allocated or not?	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#71
Never said it was. nt	bunnies	Sep 2013	#72
We are a republic not a democracy.	former9thward	Sep 2013	#94
Why would these particular people be deserving of their own senators?	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2013	#58
I didnt write the fucking Constitution.	bunnies	Sep 2013	#62
Well, it's your 'fucking' constitution	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2013	#66
And MY constitution says TWO Senators per state. nt	bunnies	Sep 2013	#70
Oh, you 44,000 folks up there feel you don't have enough representation	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#54
Though I can somewhat sympathize...	theHandpuppet	Sep 2013	#16
And as was mentioned in another thread earlier on a similar subject	life long demo	Sep 2013	#31
Which is why they provided limits on the ability to do this in the constitution...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2013	#61
Oh, there you go, bringing the Constitution into it!	Maeve	Sep 2013	#86
Erin Ryan is the president of the local teabaggers	XemaSab	Sep 2013	#17
So THAT's why she wants water rights.	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2013	#44
I think we should give all T-baggers their own state	paulrandfu	Sep 2013	#18
Hello, this is not a big deal.	Bette Noir	Sep 2013	#20
eye roll	SoapBox	Sep 2013	#21
Yeah, let's start a few dozen small Republican states and give them each two Senators.	Coyotl	Sep 2013	#22
Should we take away Rhode Islands Senators too?	bunnies	Sep 2013	#46
Let 'em go!	blkmusclmachine	Sep 2013	#24
I guess they have everything squared away there, time and money for this crap	DiverDave	Sep 2013	#26
Was up there a year ago.	oldandhappy	Sep 2013	#27
They are very likely factually incorrect about the direction of the tax flow.	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#28
State of Jefferson.....what and ironic name if it becomes a "red state".	Xolodno	Sep 2013	#32
Wow x 3	moonlady0623	Sep 2013	#37
This is just Siskiyou County....but....	Xolodno	Sep 2013	#38
There are a lot of good people in Siskiyou.	Jesus Malverde	Sep 2013	#39
it doesn't matter if it's red or blue.	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#57
We want our money back	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#68
Every fucking county in California	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#42
Gotta have those green lawns in Palm Springs!	Throd	Sep 2013	#43
You can object to anything you choose.	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#52
FYI the green lawns in Palm Springs are so far away from Lake Shasta that the water is	Cleita	Sep 2013	#106
but rural $ doesn't go to the cities.	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#65
All I know	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#87
IN, not CA, but the 1st study I found:	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#91
Well, with a half million people in the city	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#92
urban to rural tax flow is consistent across the country	maxsolomon	Sep 2013	#96
Again, about Washington state.	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#97
we in SF and LA aren't taking your money, quite the opposite	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#74
Actually it's the urban areas of San Francisco and LA that provide the tax	Cleita	Sep 2013	#104
Link?	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#107
Common sense.	Cleita	Sep 2013	#109
Would that be the same "common sense"	Le Taz Hot	Sep 2013	#110
I was talking about places like Siskiyou. I know Fresno and most of the Central Valley	Cleita	Sep 2013	#114
I don't think Ashland would be too happy with that	marlakay	Sep 2013	#50
Speaking as someone whose family is from what some call the "State of Jefferson"	CreekDog	Sep 2013	#67
Stupid is as stupid does	duffyduff	Sep 2013	#83
Just think! They could charge exorbitant tolls for passing from CA to OR and vice versa! Brilliant!	freshwest	Sep 2013	#88
They are going to have to think of something because the county	Cleita	Sep 2013	#102
All fun and games until the CA National Guard shows up.	roamer65	Sep 2013	#98
Please do.	tblue	Sep 2013	#100
They are a pretty poor county, scenically beautiful but poor.	Cleita	Sep 2013	#101
With a resource based economy, an aging population, no tax base to speak of	tularetom	Sep 2013	#103
As A CA resident, I say go for it.	Cleita	Sep 2013	#105
Fucking idiots	gopiscrap	Sep 2013	#108
201 Census populations of counties proposed for Jefferson State:	struggle4progress	Sep 2013	#112
A Metropolitan Statistical Area is more likely to be over represented on a state level.	Jesus Malverde	Sep 2013	#120
The claim you make needs to be supported by evidence, because the issue is litigable	struggle4progress	Sep 2013	#122
Under the 1911 Apportionment Act, which has fixed the size of the House of Representatives	struggle4progress	Sep 2013	#113
I didn't know apportionment was frozen, interesting..nt	Jesus Malverde	Sep 2013	#121

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