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boppers

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14. "Being a citizen" isn't enough to sue the government over a law.

Reply to Occulus (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:05 AM

Feb 2012

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2012, 05:29 AM - Edit history (1)

You have to show that it has actually affected you in some way. "I'm scared that international communications are being monitored without proper paperwork" is what the court has to look at, and decide if being scared is a good reason.

The ALCU would have a much, much, better case, if they found somebody who was monitored, and arrested, with a warantless wiretap introduced in court as evidence against them.

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And a +100 to you too dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #10

Warrants aren't needed for collection on non-US persons not in US Jurisdiction. n/t 24601 Feb 2012 #9

So a second party who IS a citizen and IS on American soil has no standing either? Occulus Feb 2012 #13

"Being a citizen" isn't enough to sue the government over a law. boppers Feb 2012 #14

Javert - who reconsidered his position and let Valjean go? Awww, you never finished the story, did 24601 Feb 2012 #20

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