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In reply to the discussion: Israel Dismisses Warnings From US About Attacking Iran [View all]flexnor
(392 posts)'Do people honestly think that Moscow would be foolish enough to gamble with the lives of 160 million people over a nation that doesn't even really respect them? '
that's a very simpliistic statement - you're refering to the rationality of 'mutually assuring destruction' or MAD. The devil in the details of that strategy is 'launch on warning', which heads down the slippery slope of 'if you think their missiles are coming, you've got to get your's in the air before they hit - or even if you think THEY think you're going to hit them, then they're going to hit you, and you have to hit them before they do it' and just a couple of minutes to figure this all out, with a primative network of computers and sensors prone to false warnings (which happened in able archer 83, a LT col on the russian side sacrificed his career to override a false warning, not eveyone would do that)
If you're ever in Tucson, AZ, stop in and see this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Missile_Museum
and come back and tell me that is was just a 9 megaton bogyman
or this one if you're near rapid city, sd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuteman_Missile_National_Historic_Site
(havent seen the latter one)
or watch this movie on google video 'countdown to looking glass'
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8786950669565492785
1984 movie about a nuclear war with Iran, in the straits of hormuz, the setting is like watching it in your home on CNN (a different fricticious network). Has none other than eric severide and newt gingrich in the story AS THEMSELVES
the above is fiction, but able archer 83 was not. it was a nato exercise that the russians, paranoid from reagan's 'evil empire' speech earlier that year thought was cover for the real thing
wikipedia entry able archer 83
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83
2 months before able archer 83, 'the day after' aired on ABC national TV, key part, nuclear war in kansas city - the scene opens with missiles being visible over a lawrence kansas football game
from http://hnn.us/articles/58928.html
"Reagan watched a videotape of ABCs 1983 television movie, The Day After, and recorded in his diary that the production was very effective & left me greatly depressed. The Day After, which depicted a nuclear attack on Lawrence, Kansas, showed the horrible suffering of American victims of radiation. At the time of its release, Reagan worried that the TV films popularity might embolden the anti-nukes, but in the longer run The Day After seems to have impressed him with the importance of reversing a dangerous course in the cold war. During his second term, Reagan became less attentive to the advice of hawks and more receptive to advisers who recommended arms agreements with the Soviets. The Day After is one among many factors that may have inspired Reagans evolution from a cold warrior to a more open-minded negotiator"
that's my arguement that the threat was real. your arguement that is was fake is based on.......what?