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In reply to the discussion: White House: Irrefutable Assad link to gas attack lacking, but passes ‘common-sense test’ [View all]Divernan
(15,480 posts)41. More of a "credibility ABYSS", i.e., bottomless depths of hubris shading into total darkness
When scuba diving in the Bahamas, I had the humbling and awe-inspiring experience of diving down about 120 feet to where the ocean floor fell away into the Abyss.
Tongue-Of-The-Ocean (the abyss).
One of the most dramatic features on New Providence Island is the Tongue-Of-The-Ocean which is a deep oceanic trench that is 120 miles long, and 24 miles wide, with depths reaching 6,000 feet. The Tongue spans the gap between New Providence and Andros Island and comes to with-in a half a mile of shore on the southwest side of New Providence. Imagine the Grand Canyon, filled with water, and within a 1/2 mile of a pristine beach
Obama has gone over the edge of a political abyss, taking an apparently willing Kerry and a shrinking cadre of true believers along. That they continue to argue for acts of war against Syria smacks of rapture of the deep, i.e., nitrogen narcosis. (Jacques-Yves Cousteau in 1953 famously described it as "livresse des grandes profondeurs" or the "rapture of the deep".) It's a frightening thing to see - once saw a diver get down to the agreed upon maximum dive depth of 120 feet, wave happily at us all and keep on going down. Our courageous dive master caught up with her at about 150 feet and got her safely back with a slow ascent and 2 safety stops,
Here are the symptoms. I bold-faced ones evidenced, IMHO, by Obama/Kerry & their supporters.
100-165 feet
Delayed response to visual and auditory stimuli
Reasoning and immediate memory affected more than motor coordination
Calculation errors and wrong choices
Idea fixation
Over-confidence and sense of well-being
Laughter and loquacity (in hyperbaric chambers) which may be overcome by self-control
Anxiety (common in cold murky water)
165-230 feet
Sleepiness, impaired judgment, confusion
Hallucinations
Severe delay in response to signals, instructions and other stimuli
Occasional dizziness
Uncontrolled laughter, hysteria (in chamber)
Terror in some
230-300 feet
Poor concentration and mental confusion
Stupefaction with some decrease in dexterity and judgment
Loss of memory, increased excitability
300 + feet
Hallucinations
Increased intensity of vision and hearing
Sense of impending blackout, euphoria, dizziness, levitation, manic or depressive states
Disorganization of the sense of time, changes in facial appearance
Unconsciousness, Death
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White House: Irrefutable Assad link to gas attack lacking, but passes ‘common-sense test’ [View all]
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
OP
To say I'm flabbergasted is putting it mildly. Didn't Kerry just a few days ago
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#7
"Proofiness" a word similar to truthiness, meaning to have a common sense feeling he must be guilty.
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#29
"Common sense" - two words I am putting henceforth on my permanent shitlist - nt
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#78
Common sense test says that going to war requires evidence beyond a reasonable doubt
leveymg
Sep 2013
#10
What if it was actually the rebels who exploded that CBW ordnance? Should Assad
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#14
Not talking "common sense". Just speaking of what's been reported by multiple sources.
Cooley Hurd
Sep 2013
#24
I generally shy away from CT because they fail Popper's 'falsifiability standard' but
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#52
Memo to Nobel Prize Committee: Do not hand out peace prizes in advance. Thanks! - nt
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#18
I'm increasingly convinced this was all no series of unfortunate events, and that there's more
leveymg
Sep 2013
#71
Even Brzezinski can't figure why Obama began his illegal covert war against Syria.
arewenotdemo
Sep 2013
#73
Brzezinski is one cold-blooded SOB, isn't he? Willing to take the deaths of 3,000 civilians on 9-11
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#79
No question he is. Yet I find what he has to say about all this to be very convincing.
arewenotdemo
Sep 2013
#82
Actually, the "common sense test" is exactly how the baggers "know" Obama needs to be impeached.
beerandjesus
Sep 2013
#93
Is the "common-sense test" sufficient to launch a war of aggression other than to fulfill a
indepat
Sep 2013
#28
Thank you. My wife would tell you that I started channeling the same rage I used
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#47
More of a "credibility ABYSS", i.e., bottomless depths of hubris shading into total darkness
Divernan
Sep 2013
#41
I'm so channeling Ron Nessen's (Nixon's press secretary) repeated assurances that
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#54
"Common sense" said Hitler needed lebensraum, so buh-bye Poland and the USSR - nt
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#58
Actually, it is you who conflates the two. I find DU a pretty sensible place compared
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#65
First of all, please allow me to compliment you on your civil tone. That said, I
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#75
The Syrian government is still sovereign, no matter how disreputable we may view it to be.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#89
If it's so common sensical, why isn't the rest of the world on board? One person's
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#60
Because the rest of the world doesnt want to get caught with its pants down
cstanleytech
Sep 2013
#62
Kerry had previously claimed it was "undeniable". The WH is walking this back.
Pterodactyl
Sep 2013
#86
His "common sense test" sounds like something less than the least truthful thing Kerry could of
avaistheone1
Sep 2013
#92