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John2

(2,730 posts)
13. This is another
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 09:52 AM
Sep 2013

spin by this guy. He claims anonymous sources claims all evidence points to Assad but the report will not directly accuse the Assad regime. Then he tells another poster, you don't how the Assad regime works, as if he has some knowledge and is an insider to what is going on in Syria. Then people carry on this conversation as if this guy has any credibility, which is amazing.

Unless you actually know who this guy is personally, then he has no credibility whatsoever. The only thing we know about this Poster is he is from Tunisia. Tunisia is a country with foreigners definitely fighting in Syria, that have been captured and killed. They even have disturbances with extremist in their own country which should cause a flag, when someone with that nationality makes certain claims about a war going on in another country.

Then there are the allegations from the Syrian side and now President Putin, about the rebels trying to give a pretense for Western intervention into Syria. They want one particular country to make this intervention which is the United States. President Obama has lost me as a supporter. I'm a veteran, African american and from that community in this country. We talk about this every day around the dinner table.

I will tell him to his face exactly why I have lost trust in him. I have a dislike now also for John Kerry. I serve in the U.S.military for years and was there during Vietnam and remember North Korea. I had classmates that entered the Vietnam War through a Draft and saw them come home in body bags. The only reason America should fight a War is for a very good reason and it should be just.

It should not be for fighting other people's causes or conflicts. They parade these pictures of dead children and women in the Western media to play on the emotions of American citizens yet the people crying the loudest, know this region and see death every day. The Western media have been selective when they do so, because they know what strings to pull on American citizens when they want to get something. They do not show all the atrocities by the rebels and whom these people actually are. They try to reject any other sources to discredit their claims by calling them liars and propagandists, with the hope the American people still have faith in their Government not lying to them.

President Obama makes these claims to back up his officials in these positions. These officials have manufactured and lied before, yet President nominated these same people to these positions. I have training in evidence collection also. There is even a group of investigators out with an article these people can't be trusted. Look at whom is pushing this War. Do the people on this Board trust David Petraeus? He was the guy Obama trusted in Benghazi. He is the guy, I blame for the deaths in Benghazi, because it was his CIA. I blamed him from the start, because I'm military. The blame always goes to the commander and the President should have blamed Petrateus from the beginning, yet the politicians treated this man like a hero. He seemed to be working with the opposite political Party in this country moreso than Obama. Any other soldier would have been court martialed with what Petraeus got away with.

President Obama needs to clean up his Administration, plain and simple, as far as I'm concerned, instead of being part of the gang.

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While under the cross hairs of an American air bombardment? another_liberal Sep 2013 #1
You really don't know how the Assad regime work. These are chloride....not Sarin...nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #2
That's the oldest chemical weapon ever used. another_liberal Sep 2013 #28
Well for the obvious reason that they can no more use Sarin...nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #30
All your base are belong to us. Mysterysouppe Sep 2013 #34
Chloride gas you're sure about that? :) azurnoir Sep 2013 #36
I know where you are going with that, but to prove good faith I will send you more info when Sand Wind Sep 2013 #37
you know where I'm going ? azurnoir Sep 2013 #39
Lol right...nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #40
Don't want answer why? azurnoir Sep 2013 #41
here more info Sand Wind Sep 2013 #44
Chlorine bombs like the one Iraqi "insurgents" used azurnoir Sep 2013 #56
That's why I said that I know where you are going with that.... Sand Wind Sep 2013 #57
so you think Assad framed the rebels? azurnoir Sep 2013 #59
I just don't understand how you come to the conclusion that this is what I think... Sand Wind Sep 2013 #64
Assad is not as fully in control as you imagine. His brother is a loose cannon. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #6
And bring on American retaliation? another_liberal Sep 2013 #29
I'll give you something interesting azurnoir Sep 2013 #42
Assad does not have the control of Syria he once had. It would not be surprising to me, at all, if msanthrope Sep 2013 #11
If they are a faction opposed to govenment control . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #31
You don't get it Warpy Sep 2013 #52
Syria is not Libya. another_liberal Sep 2013 #55
Do try to get the point Warpy Sep 2013 #58
The point . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #60
so people who gas their own people are not idiots? nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #15
Al Qaeda blows up crowded Mosques, just for publicity. another_liberal Sep 2013 #32
NO,,, of course not Cryptoad Sep 2013 #35
All the rebels . . .? another_liberal Sep 2013 #50
Call me skeptical avebury Sep 2013 #3
I agree with you. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #12
Cough cough ... Myrina Sep 2013 #4
call me skeptical too florida08 Sep 2013 #5
False flag attack shotten99 Sep 2013 #7
CIA? Celefin Sep 2013 #9
My guess, too. RC Sep 2013 #17
Paranoia Paranoia iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #22
"The report was based on rebel sources . . ." Please, send bombs and extra underwear! leveymg Sep 2013 #8
Children of Syria thank you,,,,,,,, geeez Cryptoad Sep 2013 #16
This looks like another false report. Save your moral outrage leveymg Sep 2013 #21
Nothing personal about it,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #23
This is " rebel sources " propaganda ,it's not being reported by sufrommich Sep 2013 #10
This is another John2 Sep 2013 #13
+1 Nihil Sep 2013 #61
Give it a break fletchthedubs Sep 2013 #14
What a ridiculous OP! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #18
Sorry, not buying it. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #19
If it was true, an international response is necessary Fearless Sep 2013 #20
Gotta love folks on DU iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #24
That's an odd notion of "liberal compassion." Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #33
Probably a common asthma attack. David__77 Sep 2013 #25
Rebel sources quoted in a Saudi royal TV, passed on by Israelis... trifecta of utter bullshit! Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #26
You said it! Earth_First Sep 2013 #47
Good thing there are no interested parties in that group. polichick Sep 2013 #51
Or it may have just been CS gas Xithras Sep 2013 #27
And sometime they mixed chlorides in them.nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #38
Chlorides? As in Sodium, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium? Thor_MN Sep 2013 #48
Lol, right...chlorine.nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #49
you mean like the Pittsburgh PA police used CS gas in in 2009 at the G-20 convention? azurnoir Sep 2013 #43
Shit ! Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #46
Right, that's about how I looked after I'd been hit with CS gas Warpy Sep 2013 #53
"The report was based on rebel sources" KamaAina Sep 2013 #45
In order to stop the warmongers campaign for war classysassy Sep 2013 #54
I've been waiting to see how the rug would be pulled out from under the diplomatic stirrings-- ellenrr Sep 2013 #62
I don't believe any of this bullshit. andlor Sep 2013 #63
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