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undiegrinder

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65. Still struggling to make sense of this ...
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 11:54 PM
Sep 2013

From 3/7/12:

Victims Upset With Predator's Sentence

A former youth pastor, accused of sexual abuse of young men, is sentenced as his victims and their families watch.

Brent Girouex was given the maximum sentence, then it was suspended a move that upset many of his victims and their families.

Girouex entered the courtroom facing up to 17-years in prison but walked out with the very real possibility of never having to spend a day behind bars.

Judge Steensland suspended the prison time and opted for a lifetime of supervised probation.

Judge Greg Steensland says, "Can I put together a sentence that shows that not only do we care about your personal rehabilitation but we care about the message it sends to society and society needs to feel protected from you."

Several of his victims came forward to describe how Brent Girouex manipulated them into sexual relationships under the guise of counseling them.

The prosecutor worries about the message the sentence sends.

Dan McGinn says, "People will look at this as a slap on the hand, when you give a guy street probation and he avoids prison some other victim being picked on by a teacher of a counselor may say well I'm not going to say anything because nothing is going to happen anyway."

The defense pointed out that only one of Girouex's victims was under the age of consent and all of them returned for more counseling sessions with Girouex.

The defense and sentence, according to the victim's pastor, combined to re-victimize the young men.

Rev. Lonnie Parton says, "Their interpretation of this is that justice isn't being done."

Any violation of the conditions of his probation could result with Girouex serving that 17-year sentence.

http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/Victims_Upset_with_Predators_Sentence_141833713.html

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Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #1
WTF!? Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #2
This couldn't be real. It MUST be a joke. idwiyo Sep 2013 #3
No kidding. It's a crime NOT to put him away. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #12
Fuck, I am just sitting here going "WTF?!" non-stop. idwiyo Sep 2013 #14
Wait, he raped these boys MuseRider Sep 2013 #4
Let us know what you come up.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #10
Absolutely. MuseRider Sep 2013 #19
Perhaps the victims "were older than their chronological age" xfundy Sep 2013 #35
At least that sentence is under review. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #55
Look at the dates of the original news reports Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #105
Thanks for the reminder, honestly IrishAyes Sep 2013 #109
Our society has been in crazy territory for quite sometime, ... CRH Sep 2013 #21
Yeah, I do know this MuseRider Sep 2013 #23
What do you mean here, it seems to contradict your post: freshwest Sep 2013 #68
they are delusional matt in france Sep 2013 #75
Totally agree. JRLeft Sep 2013 #82
There is no crime called "rape" in Iowa jberryhill Sep 2013 #76
Get the pitchforks. N/t TheDeputy Sep 2013 #5
Why do I expect a followup report where he's been strung up by his nuts? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #6
Well, he should be. historylovr Sep 2013 #11
I could live with that. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #56
Are there any links from local news sources for this? Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #7
Here's one. TacoD Sep 2013 #18
Thanks Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #31
Interesting. I hadn't checked the dates. TacoD Sep 2013 #37
Again, the question is why this story Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #104
Very bizarre indeed Blasphemer Sep 2013 #40
My thoughts exactly Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #103
Hmm, common sense vs. $$$$$$$$$$. I wonder which won out here. nt valerief Sep 2013 #8
What the hell is wrong with these judges? Ilsa Sep 2013 #9
not gullible noiretextatique Sep 2013 #17
Yeah and if they do, ... CRH Sep 2013 #24
It is the text of the law that is the problem happyslug Sep 2013 #90
No Doubt.... cynzke Sep 2013 #13
No mention of who this judge was, but this is interesting... tosh Sep 2013 #15
Last week he was sentenced and the judge suspended it intaglio Sep 2013 #16
Good. MuseRider Sep 2013 #22
I hope he gets his ass in jail this time. sakabatou Sep 2013 #108
WhattheFuck? Solly Mack Sep 2013 #20
Even his wife was pissed off when he was given probation. idwiyo Sep 2013 #25
How special the sentence and how roaring-ly special this special man of God is. indepat Sep 2013 #26
Curious timing with the Dawkin's "mild pedophilia" posts Trillo Sep 2013 #27
Rape 12 people. Don't go to jail. Ash_F Sep 2013 #28
What is it with the anti-gay religionists? longship Sep 2013 #29
they have self-loathing instilled from childhood about the "sin" of the gay wordpix Sep 2013 #52
There must be a way to find out who this judge was! Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #30
This weeks episode of ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #32
"Law and Order: WTF?" FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #44
That is such bullshit gopiscrap Sep 2013 #33
Girouex's sentence was reduced from 17 years in prison to sex offender treatment and probation hue Sep 2013 #34
Minors? Rape? Mental Abuse? Should be locked away for good. Damn judges for letting rapists go! freshwest Sep 2013 #69
Our justice system is broken. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #36
The sentence reduction actually occurred in March 2012. TacoD Sep 2013 #38
Of course! xfundy Sep 2013 #39
I'm fucking speechless and angry. Wtf is wrong with people???????!!!!!!! SummerSnow Sep 2013 #41
Pardon me while I go puke. radicalliberal Sep 2013 #42
I told Heinz and Rudi about this Ass Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #43
That's insane Precisely Sep 2013 #45
He gets probation. But if he were a paraplegic taking "too many" pain pills, Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #46
The difference between Girouex and Sandusky? EvolveOrConvolve Sep 2013 #47
You nailed it. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #83
Growing Evidence that the difference is that this is NOT a real report happyslug Sep 2013 #99
Just checked out this story to see what state it occurred in.. mpcamb Sep 2013 #48
This is an absolutely insane ruling. PeteSelman Sep 2013 #49
The R in IOKIYAR can stand for something other than Republican, it seems. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #50
Unbelievable. LisaL Sep 2013 #51
O.M.G. Th1onein Sep 2013 #53
Anybody else feel like Googling the judge? undiegrinder Sep 2013 #54
Dang, If I get into trouble I want him as my judge. /nt dballance Sep 2013 #96
To quote Stephen Colbert: This just in, Jesus has quit! Initech Sep 2013 #57
Are you fucking kidding me? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #58
Life In Prison erpowers Sep 2013 #59
OK, so I told my hubby this tonight and he just looked at me funny... CTyankee Sep 2013 #60
this story defies explanation 0rganism Sep 2013 #61
Ironic that he said it with his straight face. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2013 #62
this is beyond words (at least, words that won't get me banned) I wish I believed in hell, because niyad Sep 2013 #63
Where in Iowa? jwirr Sep 2013 #64
Council Bluffs. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #66
Thanks. I was assuming it was somewhere in Steve Kings district. Just a little south of it. Seems jwirr Sep 2013 #67
Close. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #71
Still struggling to make sense of this ... undiegrinder Sep 2013 #65
Can't wait to see O'reilly Midnight Writer Sep 2013 #70
Oh Really's audience might find this to be too complicated Midnight Writer Sep 2013 #72
Judge must be a pedophile 1Greensix Sep 2013 #73
christians are strange matt in france Sep 2013 #74
Can you remind me of the age of sexual consent in France? jberryhill Sep 2013 #77
france is fucked for harbouring polanski matt in france Sep 2013 #79
An adult fucking a 14, 15, 16, 17 and depending how old you are 18 year old is sick. JRLeft Sep 2013 #84
im 34 matt in france Sep 2013 #86
I ended up reading Canon law, and the Vatican puts it at 15 happyslug Sep 2013 #94
I know New York 17, New Jersey 16. It's wrong IMO. JRLeft Sep 2013 #97
la vache qui ri matt in france Sep 2013 #80
Are you quite all right? jberryhill Sep 2013 #81
most french enjoy soliciting anyone for sex matt in france Sep 2013 #87
frankly, I believe the pastor believed what he was saying Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #78
This story is from March 2012...and is almost unverifiable..could be a fake... Stuart G Sep 2013 #85
Nothing on website for the Council Bluffs newspaper exboyfil Sep 2013 #88
Is it this man? Ash_F Sep 2013 #93
Yes - Thanks exboyfil Sep 2013 #106
Twice I put in the numbers to access the site, but they just gave me a third set... AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #107
It appears that it violates LBN rules grantcart Sep 2013 #89
I have done so....strange way it got picked up recently and started all over.. Stuart G Sep 2013 #91
Sounds like a Bar Exam Question happyslug Sep 2013 #92
Check out this link Ash_F Sep 2013 #95
His actual record happyslug Sep 2013 #100
Maybe it's not "rape-rape" marshall Sep 2013 #98
Oh, those poor, poor persecuted Christians! KansDem Sep 2013 #101
Waiting for the usual suspects Pab Sungenis Sep 2013 #102
You have got to be shitting me! bobGandolf Sep 2013 #110
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities -- Voltaire FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #111
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