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leftynyc

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37. Respectfully disagree

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:20 AM

Feb 2012

Maybe the men are deeply offended (and I'm not even sure of that - I maintain they're looking for something to be outraged about) - I suspect the women are more concerned about not being slaves to their fathers/brothers/husbands - they want to raise their children and live their lives.

The President has apologized and it's still not enough. For some who are just waiting for us to leave so they can return to the 9th century, nothing will be enough so I have my troubles in caring about a book being burned. Before we got there, women couldn't leave their homes, couldn't go to school, couldn't work, couldn't even go to a doctor without some man's permission. You'll have to excuse me for not giving a shit about the men who want to return to that without the interference of the west.

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Barack Obama apology to Afghanistan over Koran burning [View all] alp227 Feb 2012 OP

religious bullies insecure in their own beliefs; religion is so wonderful eh? nt msongs Feb 2012 #1

yup it's great n/t LostinRed Feb 2012 #27

Murder over a freeking book leftynyc Feb 2012 #2

Agreed 100% BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #46

And I agree with your thoughts 100% leftynyc Feb 2012 #47

I look at it like this JonLP24 Feb 2012 #88

RW will use this as ammunition librechik Feb 2012 #3

If we're ever to have a civilized world, apologies should be more common. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #4

I'm sorry you feel that way... didact Feb 2012 #42

And I'm terribly sorry that you don't. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #44

I wish he'd told them to lighten up instead slackmaster Feb 2012 #5

I wish he'd told them to shove it. Or just ignored the whole thing. Fortran Feb 2012 #14

Someone at a much lower level should have apologized Mosby Feb 2012 #50

And it (legitimately) gives ammuniton to the wingnuts who claim the Prez appeases terrorists. Fortran Feb 2012 #65

How exactly does it "legitimately" give ammunition to the Idiocrats? lunatica Feb 2012 #76

It is legitimate in the precise same way that facts are. Fortran Feb 2012 #82

Why should Obama be afraid of facts? lunatica Feb 2012 #84

Pabst Blue Ribbon. Varp ent slorp. I now understand your username. Fortran Feb 2012 #85

My username is quite clear lunatica Feb 2012 #86

so when the american flag and the bible get burned SemperEadem Feb 2012 #6

I would hope we would be sane enough to realize it's just a book. chrisa Feb 2012 #7

I would also hope that the people in Afghanistan would also realize that the totodeinhere Feb 2012 #9

well they don't--and that is square one here. SemperEadem Feb 2012 #48

We? don't you mean them? demosincebirth Feb 2012 #19

Who is cheering? leftynyc Feb 2012 #10

If you read all the replies in this thread, you will find those cheering this on. uppityperson Feb 2012 #22

I don't see anyone cheering the burning leftynyc Feb 2012 #25

right, if the people of New York City were occupied by a foreign power and drones rained down upon Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #30

Spare me the martyr routine leftynyc Feb 2012 #90

I thought we were talking about Afgahanistan and this particular incident in Afghanistan Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #91

Yes, we were leftynyc Feb 2012 #94

agree AndySipowicz Feb 2012 #79

Cultural sensitivity should be a two way street. I don't see much of it over on their side totodeinhere Feb 2012 #60

Agreed. nt cstanleytech Feb 2012 #92

Good for him. I'm sure the GOP will trash him, but he did the right thing... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #8

It is time for us to get out of Afghanistan. bin laden is gone /nt still_one Feb 2012 #11

The "Koran" is NOT just a BOOK, it is HOLY drynberg Feb 2012 #12

Indeed and thank you for your post. uppityperson Feb 2012 #21

In light of your signature line, I find it amazing that you're defending a religion that says gay Fortran Feb 2012 #68

If that is your view, I am glad you are shaking in fear. uppityperson Feb 2012 #71

Why would you imagine I'm shaking in fear? I'm not afraid of imaginary deities... Fortran Feb 2012 #83

because you chose the smilie of shaking in fear, the "scared"one. uppityperson Feb 2012 #87

There's no such thing as anti religious bigotry unless people are the target. alp227 Feb 2012 #35

Isn't it disrespectful to use the book to pass messages to one another instead of religious study? hugo_from_TN Feb 2012 #55

A cross-cultural mistake does not justify homicidal raging mobs. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #74

So, we can use burning of Christian bibles as an excuse to kill Afghanis? PavePusher Feb 2012 #78

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #13

Zackly. The only thing in this goofy world that actually is holy is Fortran Feb 2012 #15

what a disgusting post CrawlingChaos Feb 2012 #18

Monty does kind of christx30 Feb 2012 #61

It was not disgusting, it was prescient and intelligent. Fortran Feb 2012 #69

WH Press Secy Jay Carney points out Bush Press Secy Dana Perino also apologized for Quran abuse... Tx4obama Feb 2012 #16

Lest we forget, there was also the Letter of the Two Sorries. (nt) Robb Feb 2012 #17

Did they apologize for the two American soldiers they killed? Beacool Feb 2012 #20

No, but we're supposed to be better than the fundamentalists. Arkana Feb 2012 #49

I have no problem with Obama's apology. Beacool Feb 2012 #62

The US soldiers were killed by an Afghan soldier. I don't think the rioters killed anybody. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #63

Oh, OK. Beacool Feb 2012 #64

Gingrich blasts Obama�s apology to Afghan president Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #23

I guess the Afghanistan people should be more grateful for all the wonderful things we are doing Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #24

When it comes to Iraq, I agree with you leftynyc Feb 2012 #26

I just don't see how disrepecting the Afghanistan people helps Afghanistan's women or anyone else Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #29

That's a whole different topic leftynyc Feb 2012 #31

it is not just the people who are rioting or murdering who are offended. If one cares the least bit Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #32

Again, they're offended by a book burning leftynyc Feb 2012 #33

it is hardly a secret that almost all people in Afghanistan are deeply offended by burning the Koran Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #34

Respectfully disagree leftynyc Feb 2012 #37

I would be very surprised if you found a single Muslim Afghanistan women or Muslim women from Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #39

But we did apologize leftynyc Feb 2012 #40

yes and apologizing was the right thing to do, wasn't it? Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #41

So how do we help the women? leftynyc Feb 2012 #45

unless we are going to position at least a million troops in the country for the next hundred years Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #53

Sigh - unfortunately, I think you are right leftynyc Feb 2012 #57

But I thought Bush declined a taliban offer to extradite OBL alp227 Feb 2012 #36

That was AFTER we had already leftynyc Feb 2012 #38

so that must be why military action directed by Clinton never got OBL. alp227 Feb 2012 #51

Sorry - I have no idea leftynyc Feb 2012 #52

your point was that Afghanistan was shielding OBL alp227 Feb 2012 #56

And? (n/t) leftynyc Feb 2012 #59

We asked for bin laden and they refused. krshnbrn Feb 2012 #54

Shrug - we had the power leftynyc Feb 2012 #58

The same people who are screaming over Obama apologizing over avebury Feb 2012 #28

Google burned bibles afghanistan if you want to see what actually happened slackmaster Feb 2012 #43

You are 100% wrong. I don't think Obama should have apologized, and I wouldn't have lost one Fortran Feb 2012 #70

Riddle me this: uranus is my home Feb 2012 #66

Answers: boppers Feb 2012 #72

Symbols loyalsister Feb 2012 #67

I find these anti-American assumptions of bad intent disgusting. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #73

I completely agree. knowledgeispwr Feb 2012 #75

true AndySipowicz Feb 2012 #80

It's impossible to tell whether fanatical religion is a cause -or a result- of insanity but Fortran Feb 2012 #77

ugh AndySipowicz Feb 2012 #81

Amen (LOL) BadtotheboneBob Feb 2012 #89

This is bullshit you creeps... you can't have it both ways... noel711 Feb 2012 #93

Their fundies go beserk because we burn a book Amaril Feb 2012 #95