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51. Exposing war crimes is not a crime.

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Bradley Manning charged in WikiLeaks case [View all] hue Feb 2012 OP

If Manning is guilty, I don't feel a lot of sympathy for him. NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #1

Lest you forget: there are better people to haul into court on charges; i.e., Bush, Cheney, et al. xocet Feb 2012 #3

That's really not relevant to what I posted about Manning. NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #6

Of course, it is relevant. It goes to the point of even bothering to have a justice system. xocet Feb 2012 #20

If someone I know breaks the law and is not prosecuted... NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #23

I see that you cannot answer my questions. I did not think that you would be able to do so. n/t xocet Feb 2012 #25

Possibly, yes, depending on the circumstances TiberiusB Feb 2012 #47

Answers to your questions: NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #26

Thank you for answering. n/t xocet Feb 2012 #37

Iraq War was Illegal Under International Law solarman350 Feb 2012 #38

That isn't evidence that it's legal. caseymoz Feb 2012 #43

I mentioned the murders & rapists to the officer who cited me for speeding. He wasn't impressed 24601 Feb 2012 #31

Good for you! xocet Feb 2012 #36

Didn't say blameless. Said in effect not legally responsible for orders he could not give. n/t 24601 Feb 2012 #54

This is an argument for resignation. caseymoz Feb 2012 #44

That's a bit of a distortion TiberiusB Feb 2012 #48

The fact that Bush, Cheney et al need to be in jail... jmowreader Feb 2012 #56

I agree. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2012 #66

btw, Nuremburg - following orders is no defense nt msongs Feb 2012 #5

You're going to equate protecting classified information with executing millions? TheWraith Feb 2012 #11

Thank you - you beat me to it. NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #13

OK, so we agree that Manning is not accused of exposing war crimes. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #14

Because these are US embassy cables. TheWraith Feb 2012 #21

I am not in the group that thinks that Manning JDPriestly Feb 2012 #33

Wait, how would Manning have had access to diplomatic correspondence? caseymoz Feb 2012 #45

Manning had access to state department databases. He dumped a huge chunk of it. boppers Feb 2012 #55

Well, we needed that leak just for that fact, then. nt caseymoz Feb 2012 #63

Part of the "9/11" problem was compartmentalization. boppers Feb 2012 #64

Before Bush, classified information was compartmented, and now it's not jmowreader Feb 2012 #57

That arrangement in itself needed this leak, then. caseymoz Feb 2012 #62

Why is this relevant? TiberiusB Feb 2012 #49

I question why the material at issue, so much of which JDPriestly Feb 2012 #12

Very good point, but that's not the issue at hand. NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #15

I am concerned about the fact that our government wastes JDPriestly Feb 2012 #34

there is the Geneva Conventions annm4peace Feb 2012 #39

Actually, if he'd bothered to follow the MWPA of 1988, he'd have complied with Geneva, and had msanthrope Feb 2012 #67

Manning can ONLY be "guilty" if the USA Gov't is "innocent" of war crimes 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #41

Exposing war crimes is not a crime. grahamhgreen Feb 2012 #51

It's a shame that Manning is charged with this and yet Dick Cheney roams free. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #2

Absolutely. Proof that the rich and powerful rule over the rest of the 1%. Gregorian Feb 2012 #9

meanwhile war crimes perpetrated from the white house go unchallenged nt msongs Feb 2012 #4

Which White House? cbrer Feb 2012 #42

BRADLEY MANNING IS A TRUE HERO, drynberg Feb 2012 #7

True heroes are willing to accept the consequences for their actions. NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #10

And that kind of rank hyperbole is why no one takes you seriously. TheWraith Feb 2012 #17

Implying anyone takes YOU seriously. nt sudopod Feb 2012 #18

"Hoist with his own petard: and 't shall go hard" --Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4 xocet Feb 2012 #24

Trolling or serious, I can't tell TiberiusB Feb 2012 #50

BRADLEY MANNING IS A TRUE HERO, drynberg Feb 2012 #8

+10000, the Manning case is a true test of who is a collaborator with tyranny, and who is not stockholmer Feb 2012 #32

Manning and Julian Assange should be given the Nobel Peace Prize Jack Rabbit Feb 2012 #16

This ^ n/t Catherina Feb 2012 #19

K&R valerief Feb 2012 #29

We already know the end result. . . BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #22

Same charge as Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker. Downwinder Feb 2012 #27

The entire civilized world is the "enemy" he was aiding. saras Feb 2012 #28

When the prosecution charges "aiding the enemy", Matilda Feb 2012 #30

No. Proving harm is not an element of the crime. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #59

Wow, I didn't know they were going after him under aiding the enemy and espionage! joshcryer Feb 2012 #35

Tough case to prove? Probably not. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #46

Yes, but the chat logs indicate he was doing it *for* the country. joshcryer Feb 2012 #53

The chat logs indicate a ex-post facto rationalization that is easily picked apart. msanthrope Feb 2012 #60

They've got that charge nailed. msanthrope Feb 2012 #58

Reason number 4,379,334 that our government is a complete joke. n/t girl gone mad Feb 2012 #40

Exposing War Crimes is not a Crime, READ: grahamhgreen Feb 2012 #52

Yeah. Too bad he didn't use the MWPA of 1988--then the perpetrators could have been held msanthrope Feb 2012 #61

K&R. Tripod Feb 2012 #65