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In reply to the discussion: USPS Plans 27,000 Job Cuts as Plants Shut [View all]brentspeak
(18,290 posts)66. You were there when the voice vote was held?
"No Democrat voted against it. None."
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-6407
Dec 8, 2006: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representatives position was not kept.
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"You are saying if the GOP controls Congress then Democrats should just vote for anything proposed because they can't stop it."
It would be kind of strange for Democrats who lobbied -- and succeeded -- to have the union-busting language removed from the original legislation to then vote 'no' on the revised bill, wouldn't it?
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"Democrats controlled the House, Senate and Executive from 2009-2011. They could have repealed it."
They did try to repeal it, but couldn't because of GOP leadership and Tea Party Republicans (you did research all this before you posted, right?:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4959610&mesg_id=4960877
H.R. 22 (actually introduced by Republican John McHugh and Democrat Danny Davis) was passed by the House in 2009 over objections by the Tea Party-like Republicans, but has been blocked in the Senate by the GOP ever since through threat of filibuster (along with over 300 other bills).
Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) just a few months ago introduced even stronger legislation designed to allow USPS to use tap its overpayments. No way is it going to get anywhere in the new Tea Party-controlled House.
Last year, Harry Reid tried to get something going in the Senate to limit the amount of money USPS would be required to prefund each year. The GOP killed it.
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"The passage of the postal reform act was intended by Congress to preserve and protect the Postal Service for the American people, he said in testimony on behalf of the union." -- comments by the Legislative Director of the Postal Union in 2008 defending the Act
The APWU legislative director was a member of Congress, and was speaking on behalf of Congress in defense of the bill? Who knew?
In any case, you (once again -- gee, what a surprise!) conveniently left out this portion of his testimony:
Whether the act will have its intended effect remains in doubt."
So he wasn't even "defending" the bill, after all, was he? His appearance before the Postal Reform Committee was to send a warning to those who were seeking to dismantle and privatize the USPS not to misuse the provisions of the new law.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-6407
Dec 8, 2006: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representatives position was not kept.
.....................................
"You are saying if the GOP controls Congress then Democrats should just vote for anything proposed because they can't stop it."
It would be kind of strange for Democrats who lobbied -- and succeeded -- to have the union-busting language removed from the original legislation to then vote 'no' on the revised bill, wouldn't it?
.............................
"Democrats controlled the House, Senate and Executive from 2009-2011. They could have repealed it."
They did try to repeal it, but couldn't because of GOP leadership and Tea Party Republicans (you did research all this before you posted, right?:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4959610&mesg_id=4960877
H.R. 22 (actually introduced by Republican John McHugh and Democrat Danny Davis) was passed by the House in 2009 over objections by the Tea Party-like Republicans, but has been blocked in the Senate by the GOP ever since through threat of filibuster (along with over 300 other bills).
Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) just a few months ago introduced even stronger legislation designed to allow USPS to use tap its overpayments. No way is it going to get anywhere in the new Tea Party-controlled House.
Last year, Harry Reid tried to get something going in the Senate to limit the amount of money USPS would be required to prefund each year. The GOP killed it.
................................................
"The passage of the postal reform act was intended by Congress to preserve and protect the Postal Service for the American people, he said in testimony on behalf of the union." -- comments by the Legislative Director of the Postal Union in 2008 defending the Act
The APWU legislative director was a member of Congress, and was speaking on behalf of Congress in defense of the bill? Who knew?
In any case, you (once again -- gee, what a surprise!) conveniently left out this portion of his testimony:
Whether the act will have its intended effect remains in doubt."
So he wasn't even "defending" the bill, after all, was he? His appearance before the Postal Reform Committee was to send a warning to those who were seeking to dismantle and privatize the USPS not to misuse the provisions of the new law.
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I thought they had fixed that problem by stopping pension contributions.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#23
And yet, our "great" Congress was naming the remaining ones just a couple weeks ago
NICO9000
Feb 2012
#4
Agree with you 100%, the postal service was doing great btw, until Issa and his cronies
peacebird
Feb 2012
#14
They were go again with the namecalling. Prefunding retirement benefits is also a problem
DUIC
Feb 2012
#18
I thought they had fixed that problem by stopping pension contributions.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#24
Why does the Post Office need to keep running unprofitable operations as a charity
DUIC
Feb 2012
#36
It's also burdened with a lot of snide and arrogant low-level workers. Everyone has run into them.
Fortran
Feb 2012
#44
Nothing a sane congress can't fix! A government run postal service is written into our Constitution,
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2012
#22
correct... If there is someone to be blamed, it is the person that invented the barcode....
IamK
Feb 2012
#34
All because the Bush Administration Screw them by having to cover SS for 75 years.
Justice wanted
Feb 2012
#9
Who is in the line up to steal the PO's 75 years of pension benefits?
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2012
#29
I'm thankful our wonderful postman has a chance to retire instead of being laid off
lunatica
Feb 2012
#59