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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
67. You are doing your best to confuse people.
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 05:28 PM
Feb 2012

In the age of the internet it just doesn't work. Don't you wish for the good old days?

A voice vote requires unanimous consent. If someone wants their votes to be recorded a recorded vote must be taken. If someone wanted to oppose this bill they could have asked for a recorded vote. No one did. In the Senate it was a unanimous vote. Try your BS with someone who doesn't know the rules.

Here is what the Postal Union said right after the bill was passed:

Financial Relief

There is some good news with significant financial impact on the USPS: The new law releases from an escrow account billions of dollars that the USPS has saved by ending overpayments to the Civil Service Retirement System; and it returns to the Treasury responsibility for paying about $27 billion in military service-related retirement benefits for postal workers. (No other federal agency has been required to pay these costs.)

The USPS was saddled with these financial burdens by provisions contained in the Postal Civil Service Retirement System Funding Reform Act of 2003 (P.L. 108-18). The provisions were supposed to be temporary, but the Bush administration insisted they remain in force to make the federal budget deficit appear smaller. Ultimately, the White House relented on its demand.


Notice not a single word of criticism of pre-funding pensions.

http://www.apwu.org/dept/legis/legmagart010107-reform.htm





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Heading into third world status. earthside Feb 2012 #1
NO, not at all. This is all manufactured by the Republicans. tabatha Feb 2012 #2
so that future ONE/last employee gets to xxqqqzme Feb 2012 #6
So all that money the PO has to pay...where is it right now? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #13
I thought they had fixed that problem by stopping pension contributions. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #23
When you find the article you find it was not just Republicans. former9thward Feb 2012 #30
You conveniently leave out the facts that brentspeak Feb 2012 #48
Let's see what facts you are conveniently leaving out. former9thward Feb 2012 #65
You were there when the voice vote was held? brentspeak Feb 2012 #66
You are doing your best to confuse people. former9thward Feb 2012 #67
On the contrary brentspeak Feb 2012 #68
Since you brought the insult up you must be getting a paycheck former9thward Feb 2012 #71
Not quite brentspeak Feb 2012 #72
Some good researching on the thread, thanks. freshwest Jul 2012 #73
Makes sense, considering Newest Reality Feb 2012 #3
And yet, our "great" Congress was naming the remaining ones just a couple weeks ago NICO9000 Feb 2012 #4
destroying infrastructure KurtNYC Feb 2012 #5
Makes sense DUIC Feb 2012 #7
Really, that's just so misinformed. byronius Feb 2012 #10
Agree with you 100%, the postal service was doing great btw, until Issa and his cronies peacebird Feb 2012 #14
Pension contributions have ceased Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #27
See Post #30 former9thward Feb 2012 #31
My Statement is quite well informed DUIC Feb 2012 #15
But you are misinformed. bitchkitty Feb 2012 #16
They were go again with the namecalling. Prefunding retirement benefits is also a problem DUIC Feb 2012 #18
The poster did not call you any names... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2012 #37
I thought they had fixed that problem by stopping pension contributions. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #24
Why does the Post Office need to be profitable? girl gone mad Feb 2012 #35
Why does the Post Office need to keep running unprofitable operations as a charity DUIC Feb 2012 #36
Because the founding fathers mandated universal mail service... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2012 #39
That does not really answer the question DUIC Feb 2012 #40
You're awfully eager to close post office buildings Doremus Feb 2012 #42
It's also burdened with a lot of snide and arrogant low-level workers. Everyone has run into them. Fortran Feb 2012 #44
As is the PostMaster General DUIC Feb 2012 #60
Do you think the military is a charity, too.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #43
We do need a healthy postal system DUIC Feb 2012 #61
If robotic mailmen were to come into existence, what then? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #28
The USPS has *NEVER* been mandated by the constitution. Angleae Feb 2012 #58
where have i heard this before????? madrchsod Feb 2012 #17
Tell me then DUIC Feb 2012 #19
Nothing a sane congress can't fix! A government run postal service is written into our Constitution, Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #22
Where did I ever recommend privatization? DUIC Feb 2012 #33
correct... If there is someone to be blamed, it is the person that invented the barcode.... IamK Feb 2012 #34
Crime in plain sight. byronius Feb 2012 #8
Pension contributions have stopped Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #25
And have now resumed brentspeak Feb 2012 #53
I see that now. Thanks! nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #64
All because the Bush Administration Screw them by having to cover SS for 75 years. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #9
And the worst offender, UPS Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #21
UPS? The completely unionized package service? Fortran Feb 2012 #45
anything Union is in the shitter... sad but true.... IamK Feb 2012 #49
Pension contributions have stopped Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #26
Post office today, Public schools soon Doctor_J Feb 2012 #11
Very Possible.. OverDone Feb 2012 #51
My head just exploded ... bayareaboy Feb 2012 #12
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #20
Who is in the line up to steal the PO's 75 years of pension benefits? Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #29
Pension payments have ceased Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #32
and they are still losing tons of money. DCBob Feb 2012 #38
Evolution is definitely what is needed. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #41
After you admit that the military is a dinosaur in need of extinction. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #46
Military definitely needs to evolve as well. DCBob Feb 2012 #56
Sure, just as soon as you personally brentspeak Feb 2012 #50
USPS does some things well but.. DCBob Feb 2012 #57
Nov. 15, 2011: Pension payments resumed brentspeak Feb 2012 #52
Thanks!!! Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #62
You're repeatedly posting outdated information. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #54
Hadn't realized they had resumed. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #63
Doesn't the constitution say.... Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #47
No.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #55
Alrighty, my bad then Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #70
I'm thankful our wonderful postman has a chance to retire instead of being laid off lunatica Feb 2012 #59
My sister got the news on Wednesday WCIL Feb 2012 #69
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