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petronius

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24. Arrest isn't the only concern though, right? UK is a public school, and so
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 11:27 AM
Sep 2013

the government in this case took action against him in response to his speech. They argue that the suspension was to avoid disruption and in response to threats received from outside, and not due to his speech, but I think that's a pretty specious argument. (Although what we think is kind of moot, I suppose, because the article states that he does agree with the university's action.)

Strictly speaking, I will argue that he absolutely does have the right to speak his mind (as do the RW pols and others) - however offensively or unpleasantly - in his private life, and the school should have no right to punish* him. If they are concerned about the risk of outside disruption, then they should take steps to curtail it directly, and any measures like administrative leave ought to be strictly voluntary.

* Even if, as I said in my post in the earlier thread, that punishment is more like a free sabbatical.

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Blood is on the hands of all allied with the NRA. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #1
Tweeting is dangerous jakeXT Sep 2013 #2
Wishing death on a politician's children is too much obama2terms Sep 2013 #9
So the NRA is then definitely ANTI 1st Ammendment. Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #3
You're right skydive forever Sep 2013 #4
Nonsense. Just because DU doesn't condone assassinating children of politicians doesn't make Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #11
Wish for the death of children may be legal hack89 Sep 2013 #13
Wishing death disidoro01 Sep 2013 #5
Death threats sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #8
Not a death threat. Igel Sep 2013 #16
Well, I suppose sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #20
I think he was talking about the original post not the killing children one. BlueJazz Sep 2013 #28
I agree, blood is on the hands of the NRA. SecularMotion Sep 2013 #6
It was, but it's understandable primavera Sep 2013 #10
Which is why, in an age where the words enlightenment Sep 2013 #15
I guess this is Kansas,after all, Toto Android3.14 Sep 2013 #7
admendment mtasselin Sep 2013 #12
If that college backed the 1st Amendment like the NRA backs the 2nd,....... Paladin Sep 2013 #14
That's confusing freedom of speech with nihilism. Igel Sep 2013 #17
Pro-gun policy in this country has devolved to the point of full-scale nihilism. Paladin Sep 2013 #22
Arrest isn't the only concern though, right? UK is a public school, and so petronius Sep 2013 #24
truth hurts heaven05 Sep 2013 #18
30 pieces of silver. CincyDem Sep 2013 #19
I understand this journalism professor's anger mike dub Sep 2013 #21
"let it be YOUR sons and daughters." iandhr Sep 2013 #23
He's making a point that they might feel differently if their own children were killed. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #26
Critical Reading is Critical! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #27
Isn't protecting one from government punishment for speech the whole point of the first amendment? NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #25
Remember James Brady? unterrified democrat Sep 2013 #29
Surely he regrets his phraseology. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #30
When was the last time Wayne LaPierre expressed concern for "the rights of others"? Paladin Sep 2013 #31
His wording guaranteed a ruckus. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #33
so terry bruce is appalled by a tweet - free speech - but apparently not enough by the murder by gun samsingh Sep 2013 #32
Don't forget this America where Luschnig Sep 2013 #34
Hi Major Nikon, pinto Sep 2013 #35
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