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mike_c

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7. indeed they were....

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 02:46 PM

Sep 2013

The problem is the spying.

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At U.N., Brazil's Rousseff blasts U.S. spying as breach of law [View all] AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 OP

K&R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #1

So your leaks were really helpful, Snowflake. pnwmom Sep 2013 #2

Thank the national security surveillance state. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #5

Thank the national security surveillance state. ehcross Sep 2013 #24

The risk to the United States from terrorism is minuscule. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #31

does the Brazilian oil sector represent a "terrorist" threat? Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #42

indeed they were.... mike_c Sep 2013 #7

Do you think the spying on thus President broke international law? nt Prometheus Perez Sep 2013 #9

Oh, so you'd be ok with Putin reading President Obama's emails? n/t Hydra Sep 2013 #12

I think that sort of approval only goes one direction Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #15

IKR? Hydra Sep 2013 #16

Killing the messenger again. cui bono Sep 2013 #26

President Rousseff must think a word to the wise is sufficient indepat Sep 2013 #3

She is just the only one with the independence to be able to say it out loud. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #4

Most of those leaders do the same thing. They just don't acknowledge it. nt pnwmom Sep 2013 #14

What do you mean? "do the same thing"? What is the "thing." JDPriestly Sep 2013 #28

Brazil Intelligence Agency Monitors Social Networks hack89 Sep 2013 #69

Placing people suspected of violence in demonstrations under surveillance is very JDPriestly Sep 2013 #73

Spying on your own citizens is worse in my mind. hack89 Sep 2013 #74

That's a rationalization, and you don't even know if it's true or not. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #32

There is no international law against spying. joshcryer Sep 2013 #37

Good! I'm glad this is now on the table for international discussion. GliderGuider Sep 2013 #6

Dilma rso Sep 2013 #8

You're so right! Everybody loves to be spied on, this is obviously just an act. Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #10

What is an act pnwmom Sep 2013 #13

.... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #18

The lengths that some people will go to rationalize...is just adorable. Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #20

If it's known to be standard procedure why did you post negatively above regarding Snowden's leaks? cui bono Sep 2013 #27

Good question, cui bono. I can't wait for the reply. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #29

When the point can't be argued, kill the messenger. n/t DeSwiss Sep 2013 #17

Lotus rso Sep 2013 #22

Exactly. And Dilma will be first in line to ask for our intel help to protect the World Cup games. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #11

So, if she wants US help combatting terrorism and crime she has to agree to Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #54

She can't dictate where our agencies need to search. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #56

Well, there are some pragmatic issues as well. GliderGuider Sep 2013 #57

The U.S. is not saying fuck off, Dilma is. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #58

"She can't dictate where our agencies need to search" GliderGuider Sep 2013 #60

I'm just stating a fact. A fact Dilma already knows, so it need not be repeated. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #61

If the US is going to treat nations as hostiles by spying on them GliderGuider Sep 2013 #62

No, Snowden/GG gave Brazil the club. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #63

Ah, now we see the real issue. GliderGuider Sep 2013 #64

Your attempts to portray this woman who suffered horrendously in prison Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #79

I just call them as I see them. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #80

She is a leftist. She is decent. She doesn't bomb people. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #81

"It is up to the expert judgment of our intelligence agencies..." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #59

You need to spend more time learning about the subjects you attempt to discuss. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #25

+1000 DeSwiss Sep 2013 #34

Dilma rso Sep 2013 #44

You say "I am a retired US Diplomat (Foreign Service Officer) and served in Brazil". AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #49

McIntosh rso Sep 2013 #51

You're too funny. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #52

McIntosh rso Sep 2013 #53

I appreciate your intelligent, substantive addition to this discussion, rso. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #65

SunSeeker rso Sep 2013 #67

I'm the inventor of the wheel. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #87

It's not possible to put stock in the words of anyone who claims experience Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #71

Judi Lynn rso Sep 2013 #75

Is it a great idea for former diplomats to post on progressive message boards Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #76

judi lynn rso Sep 2013 #78

"our backyard" ronnie624 Sep 2013 #82

ronnie rso Sep 2013 #84

The Pentagon, in it's own words, ronnie624 Sep 2013 #85

ronnie rso Sep 2013 #86

It has never been more important that US citizens start trying to put the pieces together, Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #89

And the ABIN never would do such One_Life_To_Give Sep 2013 #19

Heh, ironically ABIN got caught spying on Brazil's own officials: joshcryer Sep 2013 #38

Dilma and Brazil needs to get over themselves BluegrassDem Sep 2013 #21

The tiny risk posed by terrorism, ronnie624 Sep 2013 #33

WTF? DeSwiss Sep 2013 #35

Is there an international law against spying? BluegrassDem Sep 2013 #39

Yes there is. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #40

So is speeding One_Life_To_Give Sep 2013 #50

Yes speeding is illegal in most countries. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #68

We have been caught thousands of times One_Life_To_Give Sep 2013 #72

Sound like you're okay with the U.S. spying on Brazil. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #88

Spying on friendly countries is sometimes necessary to protect friendship ehcross Oct 2013 #90

''Spying on friendly countries is sometimes necessary to protect friendship'' DeSwiss Oct 2013 #91

She'd better check herself, the US could back another military dictatorship in Brazil Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #41

I don't think they can pull it off. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #43

"Syria broke the cycle." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #55

You don't think they can keep a lid on things if conservatives like Lynn Cheney Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #77

Outrageous. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #47

Profound post. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #83

Also damnedifIknow Sep 2013 #23

She is right. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #30

And, of course, no freedom of the press and no jouralists who can exercise independence contrary to AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #48

MINUSTAH joshcryer Sep 2013 #36

These things do tend to snowball, once they get started. bemildred Sep 2013 #45

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #46

Violates Article 12 - UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights askeptic Sep 2013 #66

Brazil Intelligence Agency Monitors Social Networks hack89 Sep 2013 #70