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delrem

(9,688 posts)
11. He's just saying that if it's NO from Obama's crew,
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:49 PM
Sep 2013

then it'll by YES from a H R Clinton or whatever GOP crew.
I do hate it, but I tend to agree that it's a no-brainer. I don't see any real popular opposition to big $$ anywhere except in small unstructured pockets in North America. We like our Big Macs, but we don't like thinking too much. To say nothing of doing a damn thing.
Harper is also speaking as a corporatist who earned his political credentials in Alberta where US ("western based" transnational) oil money rules, so he's speaking more as a voice for big oil than for Canada. He's very confident, but that's because big oil is very confident and one thing about Harper, he's *very* attuned to his masters voice.

I see one light on the horizon. Elizabeth Warren and those who stand with her. That's not the only light but it *is* bright.
I think Warren is hopeful because she's smart, pragmatic, realistic, and has paid enough dues already to have my confidence "generally speaking". I doubt she'll run for '16 (but who knows?). But whatever, I hope that if any Dem candidate wins in '16 (the alternative is unthinkable), she'll be a very influential voice in the new admin.

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What...are they going to invade us? Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #1
...and now you know why we are building a missile defense base in Vt. L0oniX Sep 2013 #32
Well Canadian born Ted Cruz is NOT our president, President Obama is - so there :p Tx4obama Sep 2013 #2
He thinks he can sneak it across the border? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #3
They'll only build it at night!! n/t Gore1FL Sep 2013 #6
40,000 jobs? Jacoby365 Sep 2013 #4
PBO said *permanent* jobs would be around 100 and or less and not worth it. Also Americans won't get freshwest Sep 2013 #18
Maybe that's the number of workers who will be needed Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #22
"Canadians are always dreaming up a lotta ways to ruin our lives. The metric system... Ellipsis Sep 2013 #5
Why are you knocking Neil Young? He's doing right by us starroute Sep 2013 #14
It's a quote from Canadian Bacon, where Canada invades the U.S., I love Neil... I was weaned on him. Ellipsis Sep 2013 #17
I just hope they don't cut off the Crown Royal. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #7
He's a harper all right. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #8
Maybe he believes TransCanada will have legal recourse after the TPP is secured. pa28 Sep 2013 #9
NAFTA: restraint of commerce. Downwinder Sep 2013 #19
There is nothing he can do... yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #10
He's just saying that if it's NO from Obama's crew, delrem Sep 2013 #11
Pipeline SamKnause Sep 2013 #12
No they are not but GOPers tend to thrive on misinformation Iliyah Sep 2013 #13
The prime minister's hostility to facts is legendary up here. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #16
Usually on these projects the way of counting "jobs" isn't the common understanding. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #24
So getting a little cocky there aren't you cheeseheads. You can kiss my ass for 1 as I will fight lonestarnot Sep 2013 #15
Whoa! Such virulent infection of speech! delrem Sep 2013 #36
If it is so important, why doesn't he build it across Canada straight to the Pacific ocean? JDPriestly Sep 2013 #20
Inquiring minds would like to know the answer to that question. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #21
The neighboring province.... CanSocDem Sep 2013 #29
They're trying. Big problem: it'd have to traverse native lands. delrem Sep 2013 #37
Poor chap. He will never get a no answer. cosmicone Sep 2013 #23
Harper must think Obama and the other US elected representatives are his own ministers. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #25
The "permanent jobs" thing is disingenuous. There WOULD be thousands of jobs. Come on, folks. 7962 Sep 2013 #26
Harper you have 2 coast lines build your own Pipeline and Refineries . bahrbearian Sep 2013 #27
Who is this clown? Do we need more "grit your teeth and ignore the facts" politicians? nt bemildred Sep 2013 #28
I guess this means war. Assemble the coalition troops! marble falls Sep 2013 #30
West Wing: The Canada Incident WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #31
yeah, create 40,000 jobs heaven05 Sep 2013 #33
What's he gonna do, kick us in the ankle? n/t malthaussen Sep 2013 #34
This is serious stuff; a trade embargo with Canada could have devastating effects. D23MIURG23 Sep 2013 #35
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