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In reply to the discussion: Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)You can also tell by the fact that his shit didn't come apart during the 20 minute high speed chase. Flattened tires don't work like that, and they don't look flat anyway.
At high speeds, even on run-flat tires, you need them to be in good condition or they start coming apart. They may well have been slashed during the beating however. That's how US News reports it, during the beating, according to police. http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/10/01/motorcyclists-and-suv-clash-in-nyc-road-rage-nightmare
"You can see clearly enough in that video that the vehicle hasn't been beaten on ?"
Article you linked claims dents. I see no obvious dents. I make no claims as to the other side of the car. Pay very close attention here. I said the video does not support those claims. I do not say those claims are certainly false. I do not KNOW that those claims are false, I only know what the video shows.
I see no evidence of flattened tires. Again, I do not claim they were not flattened at some point, but it is not revealed by the video, and the video certainly doesn't suggest he was fleeing with flattened tires.
I do see a dent in the CBS story photo after the window is smashed, in the side of the hood apron, but that is NOT present when he is fleeing from initial contact with the rider. The video is plenty clear enough for that. As are the video stills CBS posted. That dent happened later.
I watched the slightly longer copy of the initial encounter CBS posted, and it looks as though the SUV brake tested the guy with the white shirt before he got in front of the SUV and returned the favor.
The left front and rear tires are perfectly intact and holding air in the photos taken after police arrived at the scene. I make no claim to the passenger side, beyond that they appear intact during the chase.
"I see a mob on bikes in traffic surrounding his vehicle, preventing it from leaving."
Excellent. We can agree here. You note there is no overlap or conflict between our two claims at that point. Except perhaps your use of 'mob' but linguistically it seems allowable.
"I doubt he gave a shit about the vehicle. Wife and child."
AT THAT POINT in the video, the 'threat' is tenuous or unsupported. A bunch of people still on their motorcycles is not really a threat. What actually happened where we can't see it may or may not support his claim for reasonable threat.