Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers

[AtheistCrusader]

285. That's why I made the space/time comment. You either

are using post-hoc reasoning to justify him running over a human to escape, or you are alleging that they tried to open his door and that justified him running over a human to escape.

"They tried to open his door. He was in fear."

Your statement in that post requires one of two things: either they tried to open his door and therefore he was in fear (not reported), or the fear that impelled him to run over a person and escape isn't predicated on an overt, material act, like opening his door, that might well reasonably give someone cause to fear for their life.


We have: allegations of a slashed tire. The photo you cited does show a flat tire. However, this is the same tire that ran over the bike, and may have been punctured doing so. (Side pegs, frame edges, etc)

We have: allegations they banged on his car. There are dents evident in the photos you and others have cited, only AFTER the final confrontation. There are none earlier. (Possible they weren't hitting the car hard at that point)

So, in order to assume Mr Lien is actually justified in fleeing, we need more evidence than the conflicting testimony from the two sides, or the video, because the video does not show ANY of the claims either side made, to be true. It only shows one possible way the right front tire got flattened.