Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers

[AtheistCrusader]

302. I am prepared to lay the ENTIRE blame at the biker's feet

if the evidence eventually substantiates it. Currently there is a possibility the blame is shared.


I disagree with you that the initial contact was unavoidable by the SUV. The bike can stop a LOT faster than that. I see a tap of the brake lights, and basically it looks like he released the throttle. (I do ride bikes as well as drive large vehicles) The speed is low enough, in my opinion, Mr. Lien has no excuse for hitting that bike. He may have wanted to bump it aside. He may not have believed that the rider would risk a move like that. He may have looked away at another rider. I don't know. I don't care. The contact is inexcusable for BOTH parties. Again, in my opinion.

"I still do not understand you fevered attempts to defend the criminal behavior of those motorcyclists."

I always advocate for the truth. Even uncomfortable truths.


I agree to disagree on whether Mr. Lien was justified in feeling threatened at the point he ran over a person to escape. I accept the possibility that further evidence might justify that fear. I refuse to make a certain assumption of that fear given the evidence as it stands.