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20. Salon (Jordan Michael Smith): Why Obama won’t intervene in Syria
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 06:28 PM
Feb 2012

Syria looks like Libya all over again. A brutal dictator uses his military to repress his country’s protests. A civil war erupts. And, oh yes, a split opens among American liberals over what to do about it.

With a few notable exceptions, the conservative movement has been of one mind on foreign policy issues since 9/11. All right-wingers supported the Afghanistan war, and virtually all supported Iraq, as well. Every conservative believes President Obama has been a craven appeaser of America’s enemies, and now all believe that pressure should increase against Iran, even if that means another war in the Middle East.

Liberals have shown no such unanimity. They were divided not only on Iraq but also on President Bush’s 2006 surge, Obama’s Afghanistan escalation, and the intervention in Libya. Views fall roughly along two lines. Dominating the party since Bill Clinton’s ascension are liberal hawks who believe it is in America’s interest to use military power abroad to promote human rights and expand democracy. More popular among the rank-and-file of the Democratic Party are attitudes skeptical of the use of force in major wars. (The only exception to this split is over the use of drones, which nearly all Democrats support).

There are two significant reasons the administration has not pushed for military intervention, however. First, the international consensus that existed on Libya is not present in Syria. Russia and China vetoed a Western- and Arab-sponsored U.N. Security Council resolution condemning the Syrian government. Imagining that they would agree to a military intervention is simply fanciful.

The second reason Libya isn’t acting as a template for Syria is one of logistics. As Middle East expert Marc Lynch has explained, “Military intervention in Syria has little prospect of success, a high risk of disastrous failure, and a near-certainty of escalation which should make the experience of Iraq weigh extremely heavily on anyone contemplating such an intervention.

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/22/why_obama_wont_intervene_in_syria/singleton/

The US and others should do something but it should not be military, either direct military involvement or arming the opposition.

We and others should pressure the dictator as much as possible nonmilitarily but realize that repression often works at least in the short run.

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I agree with not standing by while slaughter continues, so why doesn't that same logic apply to IndyJones Feb 2012 #1
well there is SOME oil down there isnt there? *sarcasm* n/t JesterCS Feb 2012 #2
It would certainly be easier to get the oil through Syria for Israel than jakeXT Feb 2012 #5
The US as a general rule dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #3
I beg to differ; greiner3 Feb 2012 #8
But not always - e.g. Somalia in Dec 92. The original mission was stop the fighting, open supply 24601 Feb 2012 #18
Didn't we ship weapons to Mexico ? jakeXT Feb 2012 #4
Is Mexico's official government shelling their civilians? boppers Feb 2012 #6
Many believe that the government is working with the drug lords. IndyJones Feb 2012 #14
Why does that matter? David__77 Feb 2012 #16
Venezuela's murder rate is 3 times Mexico's. n/t EX500rider Feb 2012 #19
Bring the troops home now! CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #10
And as we leave make sure that the weapons are in the hands of the rebels. On this I agree with jwirr Feb 2012 #12
I think you mean Colombia. Arctic Dave Feb 2012 #11
I was just joking about the Lawrence of Arabia movie. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #13
I think it's France's turn to take on another foreign civil war slackmaster Feb 2012 #7
Sending in the cheese eating surrender monkeys? DUIC Feb 2012 #9
Sarkozy would never do that now Laughing Mirror Feb 2012 #15
Why not? Ter Feb 2012 #17
Salon (Jordan Michael Smith): Why Obama won’t intervene in Syria pampango Feb 2012 #20
Kosovo option? jakeXT Feb 2012 #21
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