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In reply to the discussion: Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)It's still malicious behavior that is certainly terrorizing. JUST surrounding the vehicle and not allowing the driver to leave is terrorizing given that Cruz deliberately brake checked the SUV which he says himself did not even cause him to go down and how they had already been surrounding the SUV on the highway before that not allowing him to pull over or otherwise get away. You forget also that Lien's wife was sitting in the passenger seat RIGHT where that wheel is with a bunch of them RIGHT up close to the passenger side of the vehicle... do you honestly think that she wasn't telling her husband what they were doing or not paying attention to what they were doing???
What ELSE could they have been doing THAT close to the passenger side of the car if not damaging it JUST LIKE they have done to other vehicles in numerous other videos over the YEARS of them doing this? Or didn't you bother to look at even the ones I gave you about their behavior... where there are other bikers not involved, passing by it or just watching it? You say your more convinced that they WEREN'T damaging the vehicle because of the body language of the other bikers not doing anything but sitting on their bikes and looking, yet I GAVE you video of the same type of thing where bikers were pounding on a car that had the nerve to continue driving on their green light while these shitbags were running a red light and driving on the wrong side of the road where other bikers paid little to no attention to the shits beating on THAT car just the same way as the "body language" of the bikers in the SUV incident. Do you REALLY believe that just because there are other bikers sitting on their bikes doing nothing but watching means that there couldn't possibly be OTHER ones pounding on the SUV and damaging the passenger side? How can that be when even in this incident there are bikers doing nothing while OTHER ones are clearly pounding on the vehicle, breaking the window, and several hauled out the driver and beat him like in that photo where they are beating him yet other bikers are doing nothing. Given ALL of that, it's LUDICROUS to believe that OTHER bikers weren't doing anything to the SUV at all just because many of them weren't.
These guys have been doing this for YEARS. Even while this incident was going on there were other bikers blocking on ramps to the highway because their INTENT was to clear the highway to do their filmed stunts that they've been doing for YEARS. Their INTENT was to harass this SUV to get the hell off the highway he had the nerve to drive on while they wanted it cleared for their filmed stunts as they've BEEN DOING FOR YEARS. They do this throughout their ride on every road - intimidate and terrorize vehicles not getting out of their way when THEY want the use of the whole road as documented in the many many other videos of them which you have apparently not bothered to watch. Their annual illegal ride starts in Brooklyn and ends in them TAKING OVER Times Square. This year the police put up blocks at certain points along some of the routes to Times Square at least attempting to not allow them to get that far, they were warned of the blocks and the arrests that would take place and once again tried to take over the highway instead of getting caught before getting to Times Square which is how the police managed to still capture 15 other bikers and confiscate 55 bikes.
Getting back to the photo, there was far MORE time for them to have damaged the passenger side of the SUV by the time that photo was taken than there was for that damage to have occurred at the time of the breaking of the driver's side window and the driver being hauled out. There are no bikers at the passenger side of the vehicle at that time as seen in the photo save for one off his bike standing away from the vehicle watching the driver being beat up while the wife is getting out of the vehicle. As I said, there was no other time for all of that damage to have occurred AT THE TIME this photo was taken for it to have happened at any other time other than back on the highway before the SUV driver ran over anything trying to escape. It doesn't MATTER what happened to the vehicle AFTER this photo was taken since obviously we're going by what is happening and the damage seen to the passenger side AT THIS moment the photo was taken, and it could not have received all that damage in the very few seconds from the end of the video and his having been hauled out of the car. No bikers are at all interested in the passenger side of the vehicle at all including the one lone biker just standing there watching the beating which is why there are no other bikers or bikes on that side of the vehicle.
Therefore, that damage HAD to have occurred beforehand, and the only time it could have with enough time to do that amount of damage and what else we see in the video was on the highway when the SUV was stopped and surrounded. By the time this photo was taken there simply IS no other time it could have occurred, and in the video you CAN see a sizable group of bikers right up close to the passenger side of the vehicle on the highway though you can't see what they were doing, but for what other reason would they have been THAT close to the vehicle and off their bikes? Yet you are so determined to try exonerating the bikers despite all this information for no other reason than the bikers that sit on their bikes not doing anything even despite video I gave you of bikers pounding on a car while other bikers just watched or drove on past and the video of this incident where the vehicle is being pounded on and windows broken while other bikers weren't doing anything. Absolutely LUDICROUS.