Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers

[AtheistCrusader]

373. You didn't understand what I said at all.

I said if it's slashed, it's the bikers.
If it's punctured, its possibly the bikers, possibly a result of driving over the bike.


If the remains of the tire were recovered, it might show a puncture in the tread, as opposed to the sidewall. That Gen 2 rover wouldn't have been operating in 4wd under those conditions, so there's no torque to the front wheels to cause a slash if it ran over the bike and was damaged.

I am not trying to convince anyone it WAS a puncture over a slash. Do not dare put words in my mouth. I am pointing out that it is not a CERTAINTY that it was slashed, as there remains the possibility it was punctured. THAT is as far as I went. No further.

"The media keeps reporting it as a "slash" because they have no bloody idea whether or not it was a slash or a puncture because that's the lingo that was used to describe someone deliberately knifing the tire just like many people say "wheel" to mean the tire or the combination of the tire and the wheel. What damn difference does it make if they slashed it with a knife or punctured it with a knife? NOT ONE DAMN BIT."

Wrong, it makes a difference mechanically, and as evidence. If it was slashed, I have to withdraw the possibility it was a side effect of running over the bike. If it was a puncture, it remains possible it was a side effect of running over the bike, rather than nefarious action by the bikers.

"You're also the one that claimed it had to have taken time to create all that damage to the passenger side of the vehicle at the time that photo was taken yet there are no bikers or bikes anywhere near the passenger side of the vehicle, and once they had the driver out of the vehicle they were all focused on what was happening to him than the passenger side of the vehicle, and it only took mere seconds for them to break the driver's window and haul him out."

Yet, the window is broken. SOMEONE was attacking that side of the SUV. So your objection is factually invalid. I allow that it is POSSIBLE the vehicle was banged up at the first encounter. I simply consider the time allowance too compressed. HOWEVER, it is also possible for them to bang on the car without denting it, and STILL producing reasonable fear in the driver.

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what happened, rather than jumping to conclusions. The rest of your venting is uninteresting.

"believe that that big group standing right up close to the passenger side did absolutely nothing at all at that time yet you have no excuse as to WHY they were so close to the vehicle at that time. It's as I said completely ludicrous. "

Calling BS on that. In the video, you can't see ANYONE standing on the passenger side, because it is simply not visible. There might not be anyone there at all. You have no evidence other than the 'Lien's claims that there was. The video simply does not see that far.