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karynnj

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4. Not a good analogy - just note our President - elected in a landslide - is not in the dominant group
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:15 AM
Oct 2013

as you define it.

In addition, here we all would sat we are American. No one in Israel can OFFICIALLY be called an Israeli - the equivalent of American in your analogy. (I personally have met many Israelis who called themselves Israeli - though obviously that is not what they are in the registry. It is difficult to come up with a good American counterpart - because religion does not create the same breaks between advantaged and disadvantaged here. Color comes closer, but I assume that the Columbia/Harvard educated Obama likely had at least as many whites in his inner circle of friends as blacks from the time he left college.

You would likely be more able to create an analogy for a country with a real ethnic/religious divide, (This is not to minimize that the US does have some problems with minorities.)

I know this was true in Sri Lanka - where the Tamils do not even accept the name "Sri Lanka". My daughter did a semester study abroad there in spring 2008. When Obama won the US presidency, she sent me a link to the comments in an English language paper there. It inspired many - but they were quick to note that a Tamil Hindu or Moslem or a Christian could never be elected to lead in Sri Lanka. Many noted it was unlikely to happen in their life time. There, your ethnic/religious status is who you are.

I admire the Israeli Jews who pushed this issue. I would guess that they support a one state solution with equal rights for all. This is a solution that would likely result in a secular country with a large Jewish minority - rather than majority in the near future. This is also why many wanting both a democracy and a Jewish state know that the 2 state solution is the only thing - other than an apartheid like state - that can have both.

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It's a sanctuary first and foremost. n/t Loudly Oct 2013 #1
A sanctuary pretending to be a nation-state starroute Oct 2013 #5
Great response. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #9
A sanctuary for the Jewish people who were dispersed after the destruction of the temple JDPriestly Oct 2013 #10
That's not what this is about. Ash_F Oct 2013 #12
Israel was established as a sanctuary for Jews. And people hate Jews, therefore they hate JDPriestly Oct 2013 #15
If you have read my posts on this forum, Ash_F Oct 2013 #20
In understand the court case. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #22
Palestine is not currently a country Ash_F Oct 2013 #25
Let's hope current plans to negotiate peace between Palestiinians and Israel are productive JDPriestly Oct 2013 #26
It's hard to disagree with that. Ash_F Oct 2013 #27
Um, I'm Jewish ... Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #14
See my post at 15. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #16
That still didn't address my point, but okay. nt Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #18
Lots of insensitive people on this 'liberal' board. closeupready Oct 2013 #24
In a dispute between moderate and right wing Jews Ash_F Oct 2013 #28
Sorry, it was more of a general remark, I probably closeupready Oct 2013 #29
Sure, just put the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in charge of Israel. Loudly Oct 2013 #32
Imagine if the US constitution said cosmicone Oct 2013 #2
Not a good analogy - just note our President - elected in a landslide - is not in the dominant group karynnj Oct 2013 #4
That was Tandy's Ruling in Dred Scott happyslug Oct 2013 #6
Please read my post Number 15. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #19
Prior to 1924 the only real Americans were not considered Americans Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #8
White, anglo-saxons don't need a sanctuary. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #11
Oh yeah? cosmicone Oct 2013 #13
Akward....! I doubt we'll start referring to the Israeli Ambassador as the Jewish Ambassador. What 24601 Oct 2013 #3
See my post at 15. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #17
Can we stop calling Israel a secular state now? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #7
Read my post Number 15, please. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #21
I did. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #23
They're upholding traditional practice. Igel Oct 2013 #30
maybe there should be far reaching consequences booley Oct 2013 #31
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