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In reply to the discussion: Caught on video: Father with family in SUV chased, beaten by speed-demon bikers [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)No one here is so stupid as to believe that rubbish. You've fallen all over yourself to try excusing these thugs despite all the evidence you fucking refuse to acknowledge. Again, these thugs do this ride every year. They take over the roads. There are TONS of video of them some of which I gave you that show them breaking just about every law there is on the road driving extremely aggressively and even pounding on other peoples' vehicles for having the audacity to legally use the road with their own right of way. These shitbags tried to shut down the on ramp to the highway which is why you can only see the SUV and one white van along that entire stretch of road because those two vehicles got passed the blockade at the on ramp... they intended to shut down the highway to do their filmed stunts as they do every damn year. They were pissed off at the SUV driver for getting passed their blockade attempt and were deliberately chasing the SUV surrounding it so it couldn't get away from then when Cruz brake checked the SUV to stop it. Cruz did not even fall off his bike but merely stopped to supposedly "exchange information" for the bump as his own attorney claimed in court except that there was no intention to exchange information for the bump that did not even unseat him. There was no REASON for any of the other riders to get off their bikes in the road and "help a downed rider" because he WASN'T a downed rider at all as his own attorney claimed in court. His attorney said he only stopped and got off his bike to "exchange information" for the bump. NONE of the other riders needed to get off their bikes, yet many DID, and they did to harrass and threaten the occupants of the vehicle just as they have done every fucking year to any driver that doesn't let them have their illegal private use of whatever road they're on AS THEY HAVE DONE EVERY YEAR.
Further, Helmet Camera Dude admitted in a televised interview that Cruz's brake check was deliberate - he was even the one to call it a brake check which is why the media started using the term. You can also see in the video they pass another on ramp that other bikers are blocking, and Helmet Camera Dude waves them off to keep them continuing to block the ramp... with their high speed chase they didn't want those bikers blocking the ramp to stop blocking it and join in.
The police KNEW what they were doing, from previous years and this year attempted to at least block them from getting all the way to Times Square by setting up numerous points where they were able to nab 15 bikers and confiscate now 57 bikes. Most of these bikes are stolen, the ones with plates have mostly illegal plates, or no plates at all. Over 200 911 calls went into report these bikers for their thuggery and recklessness on the roads while all this was going on. Lien called 911 himself long before the brake check even occurred because of the blocking of the on ramp and the harassment for getting passed it.
And yes, you CAN see in the video a group of bikers on the passenger side of the vehicle and the tops of two or more helmeted heads at the roof line right up against the vehicle - freeze the frames and blow them up if you have to.
You claim to just want to get to the bottom of what happened but have throughout this thread continually ignored every single bit of evidence and history even that which was given to you. No one needs to put words in your mouth, you have a looooooong stretch of posts in this thread giving every absurd benefit of doubt to the bikers despite all evidence to the contrary, their blocking of the on ramps, their history of doing this ride every year, the numerous stolen unregistered and unlicensed bikes and riders including the git that got run over as he has had no legitimate right to ride ANYTHING on public roads since 1999 and is not eligible to be a legal driver until 2017 given his VERY long list of driving infractions. That shitbag had no legal right to even BE on the road on any kind of vehicle to begin with.
There is no question whatsoever despite your deliberate blindness to all evidence that these thugs harassed the Lien family for having the audacity to get passed their illegal road block so they could have the highway to themselves to do their filmed stunts just as they have every year and which is documented in their own videos all over the internet. But you have no interest in anything at all against these assholes even when put right into your face by numerous posters here and are still attempting to find some kind of fault with the Lien family for what is OBVIOUSLY a legitimate escape from harassing dangerous thugs whether they did any damage to his vehicle when they trapped them on the highway or NOT. The Liens had EVERY SINGLE reason to be terrified of these shitbags that were pissed off they got passed their illegal blockade of the on ramp, chased them down the highway, surrounded his vehicle, deliberately brake checked them to get them to stop and then harassed them further by TRAPPING them in a HUGE group some of whom where right up close to the passenger side of the car and probably the driver's side as well. Deliberate brake checking is usually an insurance scam or car jacking attempt, and even the police advise that you DON'T STOP unless an accident is so bad that you have to but call 911 or drive to the nearest police station for that very reason. Someone that deliberately brake checks you is trying to do you harm either financially or physically or both.
But you have throughout this thread absolutely ignored absolutely all evidence against these dangerous thugs that is so violently persistent you have me convinced utterly of one thing... you are either one of these bikers or know someone that is.
DONE with you.