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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
6. Yep.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:00 PM
Feb 2012

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that a pilotless vehicle is already capable of carrying weapons, and the progress of miniaturization, autonomous programming, and secure communications means that war in the air is now inevitably trending toward the smaller, the cheaper, and the faster.

The robots are going to win, because they don't have to carry a life-support system and without a pilot they can accelerate and maneuver under stresses that would turn a human being into jelly. That makes them cheaper and faster, which collectively outweighs "better" every single time.

Worse still, we've cornered the market on piloted fighting, and nobody can or ever will be able to challenge us at the game we perfected long ago. That practically guarantees that everyone else will go the other way.

It's the exact same logical path that guerrillas take when their country is occupied by a superior on-the-ground military. Rather than challenge the enemy on the battlefield, they aim instead for what they can hit.

To me, that means the F-35 is worse than a Valkyrie-style political football, it's a national security policy position that is untenable and which needs to be reversed.

Edit: Perhaps the simplest way of defining the problem: a piloted aircraft is a platform for carrying weapons; when the weapons fly all by themselves, the pilot becomes a liability.

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I'd feel a lot safer with Medicare for All. Scuba Feb 2012 #1
+1 Fearless Feb 2012 #10
For sure. A $trillion here, a $trillion there, pretty soon you are talking indepat Feb 2012 #27
I'm interested. bluedigger Feb 2012 #2
Clearly they should have to pay it outright for 75 years like the Postal Service! Fearless Feb 2012 #11
And they'll never be useful. sofa king Feb 2012 #3
Another way of saying: F-35 is already obsolete, and was born an outclassed compromise. leveymg Feb 2012 #4
Yep. sofa king Feb 2012 #6
the military needs to stop replacing our tried and true Aircraft MACARD Feb 2012 #12
Very good points - We already have everything we need, along with incremental upgrades. kysrsoze Feb 2012 #16
Actually, we have a lot more than we need primavera Feb 2012 #31
Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #25
Not entirely accurate. PavePusher Feb 2012 #29
Sunk costs zipplewrath Feb 2012 #13
Good points. sofa king Feb 2012 #15
Ground support zipplewrath Feb 2012 #18
Ike said... BadtotheboneBob Feb 2012 #5
He also warned us against the military industrial complex Major Nikon Feb 2012 #8
Ironic that it took a soldier to say it... BadtotheboneBob Feb 2012 #24
A bargain at twice the price.... Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #7
That is $8 million per plane, per year. phantom power Feb 2012 #9
my understanding, I don't have a source handy, is it caost 30-40% more to fly the F35 then the F 22 stevebreeze Feb 2012 #21
tax the corporate churches to pay for it. olddad56 Feb 2012 #14
F 35 purpose = attack US Treasury...Mission Accomplished nt msongs Feb 2012 #17
We'll have to cut more taxes to pay for it. toddwv Feb 2012 #19
Does that include the cost of the USS Saint Ronnie and the USS Poppy Bush? Lasher Feb 2012 #20
Condi Rice said that 9/11 was the result of a lack of "silver bullets" KurtNYC Feb 2012 #22
The Pentagon doesn't care how much it cost they aren't paying for it-Corporation hope it goes higher GreenTea Feb 2012 #23
The Pentagon doesn't know how to handle money. DeSwiss Feb 2012 #26
We are going to need a good adversary to turn these things loose Former_DU_Member Feb 2012 #28
“Everybody was on board with … the program,” Robling told Reuters Strelnikov_ Feb 2012 #30
this is just done right bankrupting us lovuian Feb 2012 #32
sounds like an "entitlement" program to me.... nt Locrian Feb 2012 #33
Our current fighter fleet cbrer Feb 2012 #34
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