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40. Exactly. That's why I wonder about a witness.

Reply to sulphurdunn (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:11 PM

Oct 2013

Past a certain number of feet, it gets harder for forensics to determine distance... (outside powder burn range.)

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Man Who Shot Bystander Granted Immunity Under Stand Your Ground Laws [View all] Julian Englis Oct 2013 OP

I can't wait to see some of the usual suspects try to spin this... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #1

Here's a link to a longer version of the story that the NYT cites Julian Englis Oct 2013 #2

with timeline lunasun Oct 2013 #55

And people say SYG won't be abused sakabatou Oct 2013 #3

irresponsible gun owners= heaven05 Oct 2013 #4

Hit him in the head from across the street with a .380 pistol? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #5

Sorry, but no. jeff47 Oct 2013 #19

More complex than that. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #20

Which would be why I said "Most". (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #21

Ok, I accept the qualifier. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #23

You sound like Arkansas. Of course, since it sounds like that guy shot into a public street... moriah Oct 2013 #51

Self-defense laws are all based on "belief", even w/o SYG. sir pball Oct 2013 #76

That's why those laws used to have "duty to retreat". jeff47 Oct 2013 #78

I think you have a rose-tinted ideal of retreat. sir pball Oct 2013 #79

I think you have a rose-tinted ideal of not-retreating. jeff47 Oct 2013 #81

Oh, he should definitely be charged. sir pball Oct 2013 #83

Actually, we only have his word sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #33

Also true. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #34

Either he fired a single shot sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #36

Exactly. That's why I wonder about a witness. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #40

Holy shit. Unfuckingbelievable.......... neverforget Oct 2013 #6

Fucked up... progressoid Oct 2013 #7

+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #14

apparently, in SC, WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, and valerief Oct 2013 #8

all doubleplus good there~!!! lunasun Oct 2013 #56

WTF?! blackspade Oct 2013 #9

Second that DFW Oct 2013 #10

Exactly. malletgirl02 Oct 2013 #49

Well put. DFW Oct 2013 #63

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #11

This is just WRONG! tosh Oct 2013 #12

No comments from the Gungeon? ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #13

Post 5. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #17

Negligent? IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #39

Actually, I would call it criminally negligent. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #41

oh, I've seen stranger things from a few gungeoneers Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #42

I actually don't know. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #43

Perhaps many, if not most of them are gone Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #44

I notice my 'not allowed to serve on juries of your posts' list AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #45

this is just fucking insane. What states don't have this dumbass law? nt raccoon Oct 2013 #15

my traveling days are over.. stillcool Oct 2013 #16

So if Darrel father shot Scott then can he claim stand your ground? Pakid Oct 2013 #18

If I were Darrel's father, I'd fear for my life from this man. hughee99 Oct 2013 #80

There are no words MynameisBlarney Oct 2013 #22

This is the kind of story Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #24

idk why someone from his (Darrel Niles) family wouldnt go over and just shoot him claim syg leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #25

can his family sue for wrongful death? noiretextatique Oct 2013 #26

Probably not because it wouldn't be considered a wrongful death. Kablooie Oct 2013 #61

unfortunately not just NC noiretextatique Oct 2013 #68

Excellent question! red dog 1 Oct 2013 #69

That is a guy that I would definitely not avebury Oct 2013 #27

"No evidence indicated Niles was a threat to Scott or his daughter." SunSeeker Oct 2013 #28

During the hearing, Murphy heard conflicting testimony as to whether anyone fired at Scott while he lunasun Oct 2013 #57

In Florida, secondvariety Oct 2013 #29

This kid did not get in the way. The dad AIMED at him and shot him. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #37

Sick and sickening. SoapBox Oct 2013 #30

the 2A crowd rejoices as open hunting authority is granted by "law" makers and courts nt msongs Oct 2013 #31

Should I even bother to research this story to find out the races of the shooter and victim? n/t Jerry442 Oct 2013 #32

I did both are Black azurnoir Oct 2013 #38

WHY does that matter? lunasun Oct 2013 #58

Last time I was in SC on a Sunday sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #35

Anyone have any links to the SC laws related to this? ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #46

Found the links: ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #53

So the rights of inncocent bystanders.... BronxBoy Oct 2013 #65

You would need to ask the lawyers and judge. ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #67

The legal system *always* gives a lot of leeway in self-defense cases Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #77

There is nothing special about SYG laws. ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #82

Sad - I liked visiting the USA ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #47

And I immensely enjoyed... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #66

I agree 100% NeoConsSuck Oct 2013 #71

It didn't feel like a big city at all... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #72

Civil Court malletgirl02 Oct 2013 #48

The defendent seems to be protected from civil suits ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #50

Absurd. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #52

NRA and gun culture wins again. Hoyt Oct 2013 #54

Statistically Niles has never been safer Doctor_J Oct 2013 #59

This case is even more ridiculous than the Martin-Zimmerman case! agentS Oct 2013 #60

Silent Scope malletgirl02 Oct 2013 #62

If a law leads to nonsensical results like this, it needs to be changed. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #64

Kicked!....Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Oct 2013 #70

The "shoot whoever you like and then claim you were afraid" law: good for gun sales, struggle4progress Oct 2013 #73

Todd Rutherford Democratic state representative who helped write the law warrant46 Oct 2013 #74

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