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moriah

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14. I disagree. The driving issue is something that the Saudi government knows they have to change.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:14 AM
Oct 2013

Saudi women feel far more strongly about the right to drive, as it impacts their daily lives far more, than they are about things we might think would be unbearable -- such as mandatory hijab. How you dress is far less restrictive than having no option to go to school or work which does not violate your religion's imperative to not mix with non-related males. Public transportation is unsafe, and not often available to women even in urban areas. Drivers are generally unrelated, and often are strangers, so many women are forbidden every way they could have to get to school or work.

The driving situation is such that it's not precisely illegal for women to drive. In rural areas, many women do drive and are allowed. But licenses are only issued to men, and they're issued at the regional level. The King himself has spoken about this and said "I believe the day will come when women will drive. In fact if you look at the areas of Saudi Arabia, the desert, and in the rural areas, you will find that women do drive. The issue will require patience. In time I believe that it will be possible."

This is the perfect issue for Hillary to speak on.

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That was unwise, imho. Laelth Oct 2013 #1
I disagree with you 100% DURHAM D Oct 2013 #3
Also applaud Hillary. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #12
You seem concerned. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #5
No need to be mean. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #6
Indeed. If you think that is me being 'mean' then I think you are unfamiliar with me. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #10
So, your response is, "I could have been a lot meaner?" Laelth Oct 2013 #15
No...my response is that that is not me being mean. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #24
I'm glad she is telling Saudi to go pound sand fitman Oct 2013 #7
Hillary said something similar when she was the SOS. Beacool Oct 2013 #8
Did she? I must have missed it. Laelth Oct 2013 #17
In 2011 Hillary at first had remained publicly quiet about this issue Beacool Oct 2013 #21
Fuck the Saudis... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #13
LOL. You are kidding, right? Laelth Oct 2013 #18
I disagree. The driving issue is something that the Saudi government knows they have to change. moriah Oct 2013 #14
We have no business meddling in the internal affairs of foreign nations. Laelth Oct 2013 #19
When she calls upon regime change to make them start driving, holler. n/t moriah Oct 2013 #20
what???? how about female mutilation? How about Tumbulu Oct 2013 #25
Criticizing is not "meddling" jberryhill Oct 2013 #28
Did she call for invading Saudi Arabia to repeal the driving ban? ButterflyBlood Oct 2013 #29
If she became president she better make huge waves about this Tumbulu Oct 2013 #26
Oh fuck that sideways. She's absolutely in the right on this. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #38
If she becomes Prez, I hope it causes her to embargo Saudi Arabia and cut off all Zorra Oct 2013 #49
I wish all politicians were this unwise. nt Deep13 Oct 2013 #51
Hillary Clinton has been a champion of human rights, especially women's rights, since Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #2
And she was championing children's rights since her law school days. Beacool Oct 2013 #9
Disagree. closeupready Oct 2013 #35
OK. Can you explain why you disagree? Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #36
Great cause. Miranda4peace Oct 2013 #4
Hillary was awarded the 2013 Chatham House Prize Beacool Oct 2013 #11
yeah is she going to take their heaven05 Oct 2013 #16
Good for Hillary! William769 Oct 2013 #22
Good for you, Hillary! cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #23
Good! nt Tumbulu Oct 2013 #27
It's the law of the land there. christx30 Oct 2013 #30
What was your opinion of apartheid South Africa? ButterflyBlood Oct 2013 #31
So you're ok with christx30 Oct 2013 #32
I don't have a problem with Rosa Parks or Nelson Mandela no ButterflyBlood Oct 2013 #33
It's called civil disobedience. That's what people do to call attention to an unjust law. Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #37
How do you think fundamentally unjust laws get changed? (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #39
The problem is christx30 Oct 2013 #41
You would've gone over wonderfully in the Jim Crow era. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #42
Again I ask christx30 Oct 2013 #43
I would support the position I believe to be correct, just like people fighting unjust laws do. Posteritatis Oct 2013 #44
I'm against the bans on women driving. christx30 Oct 2013 #45
Who cares? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #47
I am. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #46
It is amazing that this is even an issue daleo Oct 2013 #34
It's even more amazing how many people here are defending the law. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #40
Good Stay calm buddy Oct 2013 #48
That would have had more weight if she had done it while still secretary of state. Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #50
Whoa. So she's thrown away the votes of the "Saudi women should be banned from driving" crowd. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #52
Chatham House Prize to recognize her contribution to international diplomacy Sunlei Oct 2013 #53
So what is Hillary going to do to help the Saudi women who are punished for driving? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #54
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