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VanillaRhapsody

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52. HE IS a Libertarian...

Sun Oct 13, 2013, 10:08 PM

Oct 2013

you think their are no Libertarians in the Republican Party? Are you shitting me?

No matter...Julian sure likes him...

The Wikileaks founder then addressed a follow-up question about former Congressman Ron Paul and current Senator Rand Paul, remarking, “I’m a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul for their very principled positions in the US Congress on a number of issues,” noting that they have been “the strongest supporters of the fight against the US attack on Wikileaks and on me.”

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“The Republican Party in so far as how it has coupled together with the war industry is not a conservative party at all and the Libertarian aspect of the Republican Party is presently the only useful political voice in the US Congress,” said Assange, adding, “It will be the driver that shifts the United States around – it’s not going to come from the Democrats, it’s not going to come from Ralph Nader, it’s not going to come from the co-opted parts of the Republican Party.”
“The only hope as far as electoral politics is concerned in the United States presently is the Libertarian section of the Republican Party,” Assange concluded.

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Julian Assange: Surveillance Apparatus �a Threat to U.S. Democracy� [View all] Indi Guy Oct 2013 OP

. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #1

I wonder if he is ever going to face up 4now Oct 2013 #2

Newbies sure come out of the woodwork... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #3

... Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #6

Bwaahaahaa! Zorra Oct 2013 #23

heh Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #48

Another predictable #13 PSPS Oct 2013 #8

Assange is NOT Snowden who IS an American... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #10

My mistake. It's closer to a #5 PSPS Oct 2013 #11

Oh I am supposed to take the word an anti-American of Australian decent VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #19

What makes him anti-American? Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #103

Do YOU presume to tell Australia how THEY should think? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #105

I can offer my opinion ... Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #106

He is making more than just an opinion.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #107

Oh, you got me! Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #109

I'm going to borrow your hit parade n/t Indi Guy Oct 2013 #93

He's not even American VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #4

Is American democracy substantially different than Australian democracy? Indi Guy Oct 2013 #7

Yes... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #9

Which political party would these disclosures fall under? Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #12

what difference does that make? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #16

Freedom of the press is American Democracy. Why should we feel differently about freedom of the Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #18

Freedom of the Press is only part of Democracy not all of it... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #30

Without freedom of the press, you have no democracy. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #74

Without elections you have no democracy... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #75

Without freedom of the press, you won't have elections except perhaps in name only. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #76

Without elections....its all a moot point!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #83

Freedom of the press and speech led to elections, not the other way around Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #87

damn dude....you are one debbie downer... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #88

No where did I imply that Republicans stealing votes was something to take as "appropriate" had you Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #89

Maybe he, Assange, being on the outside can see the trees in our forest better than we can. RC Oct 2013 #21

And maybe he can't... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #31

Yep, blinded by politics. RC Oct 2013 #33

nope...not looking for an anti-american hero! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #34

Snowden and Manning are traitors then? RC Oct 2013 #36

At the very least they are Americans...who can be tried for them. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #38

good night and good luck reddread Oct 2013 #51

OMG....You Libertarians are amazing VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #53

And you authority fetishists are just plain scary. n/t Psephos Oct 2013 #60

Oh did I hit a nerve? Too close to home was it? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #72

time for an optometrist reddread Oct 2013 #69

You Libertarians don't believe in drivers License's VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #73

well, its been dull and unenlightening reddread Oct 2013 #77

Yes...the typical result VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #78

You never answered my question in post #65. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #79

Is it a concern...yes...is it "the end of our country as we know it"? doubtful... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #81

What is that supposed to mean (and don't put words in my mouth)? Indi Guy Oct 2013 #85

huh? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #90

Stuck for a response? Indi Guy Oct 2013 #92

You'll find that as his/her MO. nt Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #94

and maybe YOU are looking for an anti-American hero! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #96

Make that an American hero. RC Oct 2013 #98

One little flaw you got in your ointment...HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #99

So? RC Oct 2013 #100

so he is NOT your "American Hero"... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #101

Even though the Australian government is more Liberal than our government, they are still our ally. RC Oct 2013 #102

Nice graph ... Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #110

Better than being blue or purple. RC Oct 2013 #112

Because, bvar22 Oct 2013 #28

BECAUSE...he is not an authority on American Democracy... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #41

And neither ore you, bvar22 Oct 2013 #44

I have much more than HE ever will.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #45

Because YOU say so? bvar22 Oct 2013 #49

How, exactly? I know the answers, but I doubt you do... Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #66

FWIW, with his trove of info Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #82

So what? He obviously knows more than a lot of Americans... Octafish Oct 2013 #95

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #5

Since revolutionary war times, we've had a balancing act of security and surveillance SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #13

Strangely worded, BUT GREAT ARTICLE! Miranda4peace Oct 2013 #14

Hopefully the surveillance apparatus crushes the RW extremists. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #15

Assange is right! warrenswil Oct 2013 #17

Yes Libertarians and Anarchists agree... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #20

Instead of being blinded by politics, be enlightened by facts. RC Oct 2013 #22

Because libetarian means different things to different people, both the left and right Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #24

and this is Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #32

I disagree with Assange re: his economic remedy but I understand his point view. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #37

What exactly ARE his credentials that he thinks he is an expert in politics and history? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #46

The Wikipedia post states that Assange is largely self taught but one doesn't have to be a history Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #59

Self-taught? Oh, just like Glenn Beck. Tx4obama Oct 2013 #68

Perhaps Assange should be more like Newt Gingrich, Gingrich must be correct because he has a Ph.D Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #71

Rand Paul... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #29

so the fact that his actual name is "Rand" means nothing right? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #47

Forgive my ignorance but... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #50

HE IS a Libertarian... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #52

OK I get it. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #55

Who is it of you to presume that other countries feel comfortable calling us their "model"... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #56

It's common knowledge that American democracy has been a model for the world from its inception. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #57

are you? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #58

I'm 100% American, born & raised. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #61

No VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #62

OK. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #63

Depends on what your definition of democracy is I guess. I suppose I think it is a bit more VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #64

When our surveillance agencies break the law and violate our constitution... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #65

FWIW, Manning is a much greater hero than Snowden ever was or will be... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #80

Can't disagree here ... MrChaoticAttractor Oct 2013 #108

obviously, if Assange said it, it couldn't possibly be true. KG Oct 2013 #25

Surveillance Cameras At Work otohara Oct 2013 #26

that is exactly what they are there for reddread Oct 2013 #54

DURec for the Watch Dogs of our Democracy! bvar22 Oct 2013 #27

K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #35

The crackpot who made sure his political party preferred neo-nazis to greens? That Assange? struggle4progress Oct 2013 #39

The dude whose pal "Shamir" was trying to sell US State Department cables in Moscow? That Assange? struggle4progress Oct 2013 #40

The guy whom Ecuador's ambassador called "the stone in the shoe"? That Assange? struggle4progress Oct 2013 #42

History will record Assange as a hero (assuming that the narrative is not co-opted). NoodleyAppendage Oct 2013 #43

Secret police are secret police, anywhere you go. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #67

So he's not getting enough attention treestar Oct 2013 #70

This is the same guy that thinks Rand Paul will save us all Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #84

A comment on his recent political undertakings MFrohike Oct 2013 #86

We're doing a good enough job destroying democracy on our own AnnieBW Oct 2013 #91

To those of you who have exited the Matrix: The Stranger Oct 2013 #97

Yes, it is a threat to U.S. democracy while they claim to keep you safe. It's all for your own good Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #111