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In reply to the discussion: Julian Assange: Surveillance Apparatus ‘a Threat to U.S. Democracy’ [View all]Uncle Joe
(64,652 posts)59. The Wikipedia post states that Assange is largely self taught but one doesn't have to be a history
major to know what Assange is trying to say
According to Assange, "It's not correct to put me in any one philosophical or economic camp, because I've learned from many. But one is American libertarianism, market libertarianism. So as far as markets are concerned I'm a libertarian, but I have enough expertise in politics and history to understand that a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free."
The Gilded Age is one prime example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gilded_Age
The Gilded Age was an era of enormous growth, especially in the North and West. This attracted millions of emigres from Europe. However, the Gilded Age was also an era of enormous poverty. The average annual income for most families was $380, well below the poverty line.[1] Railroads were the major industry, but the factory system, mining, and labor unions also increased in importance. Two major nationwide depressions known as the Panic of 1873 and the Panic of 1893 interrupted growth. The South remained economically devastated; its economy became increasingly tied to cotton and tobacco production, which suffered low prices. African-Americans in the South were stripped of political power and voting rights. The political landscape was notable in that despite some corruption, turnout was very high and elections between the evenly matched parties were close. The dominant issues were cultural (especially regarding prohibition, education and ethnic and racial groups), and economics (tariffs and money supply). Reformers crusaded against child labour and for the 8-hour working day, civil service reform, prohibition, and women's suffrage. State & local governments built schools, colleges and hospitals that sometimes received donations from philanthropists and various diverse religious denominations structured the social and cultural lives of many Americans.
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The major metropolitan centers underwent rapid population growth and as a result, had many lucrative contracts and jobs to award. To take advantage of the new economic opportunity, both parties built so-called "political machines" to manage elections, reward supporters and pay off potential opponents. Financed by the "spoils system," the winning party distributed most local, state and national government jobs, and many government contracts, to its loyal supporters. Large cities became dominated by political machines in which constituents supported a candidate in exchange for anticipated patronage. These votes would be repaid with favors back from the government once that candidate was elected; and very often candidates were selected based on their willingness to play along with the spoils system. Perhaps the largest example of a political machine from this time period is Tammany Hall in New York City, led by Boss Tweed.[27]
Major scandal reached into Congress with the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, and disgraced the White House during the Grant Administration. This corruption divided the Republican party into two different factions: the Stalwarts led by Roscoe Conkling and the Half-Breeds led by James G. Blaine. There was a sense that government-enabled political machines intervened in the economy and the resulting favoritism, bribery, inefficiency, waste, and corruption were having negative consequences. Accordingly there were widespread calls for reform, such as Civil Service Reform led by the Bourbon Democrats and Republican Mugwumps. In 1884, their support elected Democrat Grover Cleveland to the White House, and in doing so gave the Democrats their first national victory since 1856.[28]
The Gilded Age "Spoils System" fostered the monopolies and trusts which Teddy Roosevelt would later crusade against.
And as I posted upthread.
In his blog he wrote, "the more secretive or unjust an organization is, the more leaks induce fear and paranoia in its leadership and planning coterie.... Since unjust systems, by their nature, induce opponents, and in many places barely have the upper hand, mass leaking leaves them exquisitely vulnerable to those who seek to replace them with more open forms of governance."
A secretive, unjust organization or government will work against the disinfectant of journalistic exposure to prevent public knowledge of corporate/government corruption as a means to maintain or obtain power and wealth.
The more secret, the more paranoid, the more draconian their actions become.
Even a cursory knowledge of history and politics is all it takes to know the abuses that the likes of Joe McCarthy, Jay Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon were willing to commit for the sake of self-serving power.
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Oh I am supposed to take the word an anti-American of Australian decent
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#19
Freedom of the press is American Democracy. Why should we feel differently about freedom of the
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#18
Without freedom of the press, you won't have elections except perhaps in name only.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#76
No where did I imply that Republicans stealing votes was something to take as "appropriate" had you
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#89
Maybe he, Assange, being on the outside can see the trees in our forest better than we can.
RC
Oct 2013
#21
Is it a concern...yes...is it "the end of our country as we know it"? doubtful...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#81
Even though the Australian government is more Liberal than our government, they are still our ally.
RC
Oct 2013
#102
Since revolutionary war times, we've had a balancing act of security and surveillance
SleeplessinSoCal
Oct 2013
#13
Because libetarian means different things to different people, both the left and right
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#24
I disagree with Assange re: his economic remedy but I understand his point view.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#37
What exactly ARE his credentials that he thinks he is an expert in politics and history?
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#46
The Wikipedia post states that Assange is largely self taught but one doesn't have to be a history
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#59
Perhaps Assange should be more like Newt Gingrich, Gingrich must be correct because he has a Ph.D
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#71
Who is it of you to presume that other countries feel comfortable calling us their "model"...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#56
It's common knowledge that American democracy has been a model for the world from its inception.
Indi Guy
Oct 2013
#57
Depends on what your definition of democracy is I guess. I suppose I think it is a bit more
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#64
The crackpot who made sure his political party preferred neo-nazis to greens? That Assange?
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#39
The dude whose pal "Shamir" was trying to sell US State Department cables in Moscow? That Assange?
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#40
The guy whom Ecuador's ambassador called "the stone in the shoe"? That Assange?
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#42
History will record Assange as a hero (assuming that the narrative is not co-opted).
NoodleyAppendage
Oct 2013
#43
Yes, it is a threat to U.S. democracy while they claim to keep you safe. It's all for your own good
Jefferson23
Oct 2013
#111