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99. The Cruz sorts of religious leader thinks she was speaking for god

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:25 AM

Oct 2013

'm not here to say this person is mentally ill or not. I'm not making fun of what happened and I don't know why it did and I am passing no judgment on a situation I know nothing about.

However, I do want to address this situation as understood by the religious literalists that are part of the Republican party at this time.

Here's how they frame it:

“It was not a mental episode, what she was doing was known as an exercise of the gifts of the spirit where she brought a warning and a message from God regarding the activity,” Doocy said the minister had written.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/17/fox-friends-suggests-house-stenographer-targeted-for-bringing-message-from-god/

If you're not familiar with Cruz and Palin's religious orientation, it includes the idea that someone can speak words from god - any someone, and this sort of speech is inspired (and valued, as is, if they decide that's what it is.)

So, what was her warning and message? What was god telling Ted Cruz and his followers? Here's a transcription of her statement:

He will not be mocked. He will not be mocked. [to someone next to her] Don't touch me. [to the chamber] He will not be mocked. The greatest deception here is this is not one nation under God. It never was. Had it been, it would not have been— no. It would not have been— constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/stenographer-dragged-house-floor-during-vote/70632/

So, what was that message from god?

The stenographer was saying this is not a Christian nation, and any politician that says it is is lying.

So, looked at from the religious right's pov - this woman is telling them to get out of govt and go back to their churches.

I think she was speaking a truth. Whether it was from god or not, not for me to say.

But the reality is that whenever your religion gets mixed up in politics, both are going to suffer.

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House stenographer hauled from floor [View all] highplainsdem Oct 2013 OP

Again I say bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #1

I don't think it's funny. I agree with Zwillich that it's sad and troubling. highplainsdem Oct 2013 #7

I agree it's not funny - but dem in texas Oct 2013 #64

None of those things are logical explainations. Fearless Oct 2013 #8

Sorry but bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #10

No, she's just a closet fundie who was counting on God to pull this one out wtmusic Oct 2013 #14

I'm sorry but I've worked 14 and 16 hour days Fearless Oct 2013 #15

Maybe you don't have a host of different medical conditions that could cause this bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #22

Are you her doctor? Fearless Oct 2013 #25

No smartass, but a coworker who just watched someone's life go to hell for the world to see bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #28

If you're not a doctor Fearless Oct 2013 #41

Maybe because I just watched them put her in an ambulance to go to the hospital bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #42

No medical issue Fearless Oct 2013 #46

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #49

My sexual orientation has no place in this discussion Fearless Oct 2013 #52

Of course they should have been evaluated Tumbulu Oct 2013 #53

You realize this very thing happened to a Jet Blue airline pilot some month back yes? LanternWaste Oct 2013 #86

The conspiracy theories i referred to Fearless Oct 2013 #94

Which seem both irrational and unstable given the context of her position at that particular moment. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #107

Medications don't make you believe that freemasons are trying to overthrow the government Fearless Oct 2013 #116

I agree with what you say heaven05 Oct 2013 #87

Are you? Ash_F Oct 2013 #73

Because medical issues don't make you spout right wing bs Fearless Oct 2013 #82

I've never been in the situation this woman was in; greiner3 Oct 2013 #106

There's no reason I should hold pity for a winger. Fearless Oct 2013 #115

I have had Hypoglycemia for years now. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #56

Sounds like a medical condition Bradical79 Oct 2013 #34

Dont' be sorry. They always say 'people panic in their native tongue' tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #35

Are you surrounded by batshit crazy self-absorbed millionaires? Myrina Oct 2013 #88

I manage a restaurant. Short answer yes. Fearless Oct 2013 #95

I can't think of any medical condition that Jamastiene Oct 2013 #55

She could have had a mental break(down). avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #66

Thank you get the red out Oct 2013 #102

.... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #38

All things have a cause Fearless Oct 2013 #43

Classical definition of faith is merely a belief in that if which we do not posses all relevant know LanternWaste Oct 2013 #110

We are speaking of two slightly different definitions of faith. Fearless Oct 2013 #118

I'm with you. The poor woman went sailing right off the edge... Hekate Oct 2013 #12

Yes, that was my first thought- If I had to pass all that poison through my body to record it, NBachers Oct 2013 #16

Former court reporter here. You are absolutely right. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #109

One wants to be kind - but I think she's been at the Oreo's. GoneOffShore Oct 2013 #2

FIRED!!! With Medical to get her the help she needs Heather MC Oct 2013 #3

I assume they mean Chuck Todd? Schema Thing Oct 2013 #4

I'm pretty sure she was on Jetblue flight into Tampa the other day Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #5

The unfortunate girl seated nearest the camera is scared shitless. HubertHeaver Oct 2013 #77

At least they were apparently landing. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #81

Ah, that is who it was. I hope she appreciates the mental health part of ACA. But wtf? uppityperson Oct 2013 #6

wow...Krazy. SoapBox Oct 2013 #9

"The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons..." wtmusic Oct 2013 #11

Masonry was very prevelant at our country's inception. juajen Oct 2013 #72

Sadly, most of the recent administrations have tended to ignore the good bits like that ... Nihil Oct 2013 #78

The masons also pulled off the Boston Tea Party Marrah_G Oct 2013 #85

its the same lady? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #13

She'll be a tea party candidate for U.S. Senate next year KinMd Oct 2013 #17

+1000000 Jamastiene Oct 2013 #57

Nice to see the famous DU empathy and compassion are alive and well in this thread Hekate Oct 2013 #18

No empathy whatsoever for dominonists who think they can kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #24

Thank you wtmusic Oct 2013 #33

Compassion for what? jberryhill Oct 2013 #30

So far the pundits and Republicans who know her say this woman is normally soft spoken and reserved. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #68

Edward Snowden worked for the government too jberryhill Oct 2013 #114

It's definitely one of the more annoying popular beliefs around here, isn't it? Posteritatis Oct 2013 #79

I don't think it's the beliefs treestar Oct 2013 #89

I'm talking in much more general terms Posteritatis Oct 2013 #119

Remember this? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #32

The stuff that she was shouting pothos Oct 2013 #39

Really... RobinA Oct 2013 #97

I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who deliberately waisted the Nation's time tenderfoot Oct 2013 #113

just found her facebook page dlwickham Oct 2013 #19

Dobson from the AFA are mentioned prominently on her Likes page. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #58

I'm pretty sure this is her FB page dlwickham Oct 2013 #65

Michelle, is that you? AC_Mem Oct 2013 #20

She 'strolled' up to the dais, not 'charged' - and her name is Molly. Tx4obama Oct 2013 #21

Yes, I distinctly heard "Molly" hamsterjill Oct 2013 #91

Molly is powdered MDMA. MelungeonWoman Oct 2013 #105

On a brighter note, I hear there's a job opening for a new stenographer at the US House of Reps. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #23

Is her name Diane Reidy? Anything No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #26

Been there 20 years jberryhill Oct 2013 #29

video IronLionZion Oct 2013 #27

that seals it for me - not tired, just off her rocker tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #37

I was a court reporter(stenographer) for twenty years. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #31

Thank you for sharing your experience. Ash_F Oct 2013 #92

Thank you for this -- I believe every word of what you said. Hekate Oct 2013 #117

Very weird! emsimon33 Oct 2013 #36

oh dear wait till she finds out azurnoir Oct 2013 #40

Facts don't matter to RW Dobson AFA religious types. Sorry, but they have faith-based "realities".nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #93

It's fall rpannier Oct 2013 #44

Closet teabagger fundie gets caught up in the excitement and does something irresponsible. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #45

Thanks for all the kind-hearted posts above that set me straight. n/t mia Oct 2013 #47

On another site, a commenter said her words were No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #59

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't political. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #74

Thanks for clarification. No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #100

Would someone 'splain this to me? She disrupted a single house chamber meeting where, if they had jtuck004 Oct 2013 #48

+++ davidthegnome Oct 2013 #51

Good observation. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #60

OMG -- an actual attempt to put this in PERSPECTIVE ! eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #103

that is a good example of irony wordpix Oct 2013 #121

If you think that's bad, there are hundreds of people like her in the military Crowman1979 Oct 2013 #50

In the House too, with all those Teabaggers in there. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #61

Another video of the event... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #54

That sounds like half the religious zealots in my little Bible Belt hometown. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #62

I know. A couple under a tree by a lake,..."We should get married. We both hate the same things." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #63

Nice job enhancing the audio on this video. eom Festivito Oct 2013 #76

Down right strange davidpdx Oct 2013 #67

They do a lot of drugs in DC. loudsue Oct 2013 #69

This does not surprise me in the least... ReRe Oct 2013 #70

Sorensen did a toon yesterday ... I think it ffits Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #71

+1 Liberalynn Oct 2013 #96

brilliant Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #98

Well that's ONE federal employee who won't be returning to work tomorrow. cui bono Oct 2013 #75

Surprised it hasn't happened before now. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #80

It's all fun and games meanit Oct 2013 #83

If she had shouted 'All'hu Akbar!' it would have been reported VERY differently. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2013 #84

This lunatic womain will probaby become the new RW hero. DCBob Oct 2013 #90

The Cruz sorts of religious leader thinks she was speaking for god RainDog Oct 2013 #99

Not just listening to those baggers, but reporting their crazy crap.. SummerSnow Oct 2013 #101

This isn't stress. That's bullshit. The Stranger Oct 2013 #104

Well... penultimate Oct 2013 #111

She'll be fired; greiner3 Oct 2013 #108

not fired but out on medical discharge. To dangerous, she could harm herself or others. Sunlei Oct 2013 #122

That's strange... penultimate Oct 2013 #112

It sounds like she had some kind of nervous breakdown. Beacool Oct 2013 #120

Stenographer offers godly excuse hamsterjill Oct 2013 #123