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73. Then if you worked for the phone company you also signed the Code of Conduct and

Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:02 AM

Oct 2013

Know what espionage detail meant. If you know and saw the phone call records you did not have the details of the phone calls as well and if you was in a position to hear information you knew not to reveal this information which makes all this even more silly. The biggest problem is rogue employees doing the wrong things. It is more dangerous for Snowden and other rogue employees hauling your information all over the world. Again bottom line he is wrong in his decisions. It is not about letting everyone know what is going on, we already knew this, it is an attempt by he and his group to do damage and for many of us who know and understand these motives does not believe and see this is exactly what is occurring. You can continue to ramp this up all you want, he has committed espionage and the only ones believing this crap are those who wants to make something out of nothing. Shameful.

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Snowden Says He Took No Secret Files to Russia [View all] alp227 Oct 2013 OP

Snowden is not someone you can put your trust, he has stolen information he said he would not Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #1

Yes, I put all my trust in anonymous Internet posters. Hissyspit Oct 2013 #7

...especailly 'sense-able' internet posters. n/t L0oniX Oct 2013 #14

How can you put trust into which statement he makes. No, I will not pass on information Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #17

So he's a liar ...just like our government? Remember Jessica Lynch? ...and WMD's? L0oniX Oct 2013 #18

Did you read the article? He explains precisely why he did what he did. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #8

Your explanation is likened to if I kill you and then post an article in the nyt as to why I killed Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #19

Oh, crazy false equivalency here. caseymoz Oct 2013 #34

Bottom line, Snowden is a liar, he can not explain away his lies. Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #46

Great fall back postion. nt caseymoz Oct 2013 #57

Snowden didn't kill anyone. Snowden told the American people and the world that the US JDPriestly Oct 2013 #39

Snowden is a liar and has broken laws, he can not explain away the truth, it Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #47

He did not lie to the American people. Clapper did. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #50

You dont know which and how many times he has lied, he started with a lie, he has told Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #52

One lie. Please tell me one lie that Snowden told to the American people. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #53

Does he claim he "revealed" information about the collecting phone call records? The Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #55

He revealed the documents. I don't think he claims he revealed information that was already JDPriestly Oct 2013 #56

Would you think documents such as the FISA act dating back to 1979 would be something which Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #60

Yes. I know the reason behind the FISA ACt, and I think that our NSA is violating the premise JDPriestly Oct 2013 #67

Then you know this was not revealed by Snowden as I have previously stated. Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #71

Snowden revealed the documents that proved what was going on and defined the scope of the JDPriestly Oct 2013 #72

Then if you worked for the phone company you also signed the Code of Conduct and Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #73

By that standard it corrals every administration since this country began. Nice job. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2013 #15

Broken trust? Ah I get it. So don't trust the US government. Thanks for making that clear. L0oniX Oct 2013 #16

So you dont trust him. What's your point? That you dont like whistleblowers? nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #20

Thank God he left them with JOURNALISTS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA! 7962 Oct 2013 #2

Certainly not those who illegally gathered the info to begin with! HAHAHAHAHAHA....wait a second.... last1standing Oct 2013 #6

Lets see what he's doing in a year, as I've said before. 7962 Oct 2013 #9

Yes, the lesson learned is that the government needs to keep its illegal actions a better secret. last1standing Oct 2013 #10

Hello apple, meet orange. 7962 Oct 2013 #28

Ah! So if those whose communications are violated don't get syphillis there is no comparison. last1standing Oct 2013 #29

In severity, no. But to you illegal is illegal and thats all that matters. Wow. 7962 Oct 2013 #30

So now you're saying it's cantelope to watermelon instead of apples to oranges. last1standing Oct 2013 #31

As I said, most divisive subject on DU in the yrs I've been around. 7962 Oct 2013 #36

So it's fine because no one's dead, yet (so far as we know). last1standing Oct 2013 #37

Snowden explained in clear terms. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #40

LOL, I think the joke is on you. You intimate that the Russians spy on their people more rhett o rick Oct 2013 #21

They certainly spy on their gays and lesbians a lot more, I'm pretty sure of that. 7962 Oct 2013 #26

How do you "know" the US spies on LGBTs less than Russia? xfundy Oct 2013 #32

I didnt say "know", I said "pretty sure". Big difference. 7962 Oct 2013 #35

another pro-surveillance talking point crumbles.... mike_c Oct 2013 #3

Maybe Snowden really is a hero. In any case, he is noble and not the traitor some think. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #4

Recommend...Thanks for this info... KoKo Oct 2013 #42

I stole those other things! Not these things! The other things! alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #5

The swooners will have a #13 field day with this PSPS Oct 2013 #11

^^^^this^^^^ ...and ...nice collection. n/t L0oniX Oct 2013 #13

You forgot "Snowden has a messy garage" IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #23

And there was, "his girlfriend was a dancer." JDPriestly Oct 2013 #41

She was alternately a pole dancer and a ballet dancer, QC Oct 2013 #61

I don't have blind, unquestioning faith in either the gov't OR SnowWald Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #63

Snowden is a hero. L0oniX Oct 2013 #12

Oh sure Snowden is completely trustworthy...... 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #22

So, to determine if Snowden is trustworthy, IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #24

Do you steal from your employer or condone stealing from an employer? Because that's what he did. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #27

OH! Your 666th post! xfundy Oct 2013 #33

If that is meant to be a crack it didn't work I am an iconoclast. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #49

Snowden's employer was the people of the United States, and he gave our information JDPriestly Oct 2013 #43

If my employer was doing something illegal that caused harm... Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #64

Uh huh, yeah, that's the ticket. n/t Lil Missy Oct 2013 #25

Ironic that tonight C SPAN live coverage of the 40th Anniversary discussion reddread Oct 2013 #38

These surveillance fetishists are trying to make Watergate legal -- retroactively legal. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #45

really like to know who exactly pays all his bills over the past couple years. and got him those job Sunlei Oct 2013 #44

Oh, good. I was worried he might have. Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #48

Oh shut the fuck up Comrade Eddie. SoapBox Oct 2013 #51

Totally agree! nt mimi85 Oct 2013 #58

I would rather hear from him than you. Hissyspit Oct 2013 #59

Oh, so he's a Rooskie now is he? Is this the 1950s calling? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #69

Hard Winter Tip #1: Protect Your Tip. onehandle Oct 2013 #54

This doesn't even begin to jibe with the official story so far, and only raises more questions Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #62

Neither have said any such thing. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #65

My mistake...I'm just trying to get the story straight Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #66

It is no secret that Poitras, Greenwald, and Gellman have a large number of files. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #68

Language is a funny thing Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #70

It's strange he wouldn't know the "unique value" of carrying that stuff into Russia jmowreader Oct 2013 #74