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85. What then is that number, what is the number based on, what is being done to prevent it, and are tho

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:41 AM

Oct 2013

" If people here on DU cant admit that there is a good number of fraudsters hurting the program, fine. Whistle past the graveyard..."

What then is that number, what is the number based on, what is being done to prevent it, and are those preventive measure within the cost of return-on-investment... each and all seem like critically relevant, yet ignored numbers in your premise.

Possibly the critics of this story realize that one, or even ten individual cases are not a statistically sound sample on which to form a conlusion, regardless of what we may want to read into them.

And that's not "whistling past the graveyard" (the petulant trivialization of that phrase is quite clever and necessary, yes?), that's simply requesting relevant information from which to form a sound conclusion.

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Glenn Taylor filmed pushing 2,000-pound rock one month after filing lawsuit saying he was disabled [View all] LiberalElite Oct 2013 OP

I still say..... JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #1

+1 AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #8

Yeah it did Scairp Oct 2013 #23

The boulder was loose to his touch supposedly. No feat of strength. Gravity Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #30

There's no mountain, and it's not a long hike. Bette Noir Oct 2013 #42

Huge boulder balanced on a handful of sand. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #47

This Einstein could have had the boulder fall back on his sorry ass warrant46 Oct 2013 #108

Yeah that sand underneath was oddly distributed. Man was 50-50 candidate for a Darwin Award. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #116

Have you watched the video? quakerboy Oct 2013 #46

Yes. He was lower at first and when he got up higher it didn't take huge effort. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #63

I can walk Scairp Oct 2013 #102

Basic physics enables us to distinguish between inertia and gravity. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #59

Karma here fitman Oct 2013 #79

stone kardonb Oct 2013 #91

This just gets better and better NV Whino Oct 2013 #2

I got lambasted for defending the "60 Minutes" story on disability fraud; glad you posted this. 7962 Oct 2013 #3

This happens more 840high Oct 2013 #29

I agree 1000%. I did the same but got flamed, according to many doc03 Oct 2013 #31

Uh, this is a about a lawsuit, not ssdi. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #36

So you're saying Glenn Taylor isn't disabled? joshcryer Oct 2013 #39

I'm saying the article referenced did not discuss ssdi, it discussed a lawsuit filed by this creep. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #97

You're the one talking about "actual disabilities." joshcryer Oct 2013 #111

"bashing actual disabled people"? Yeah, he looked it shoving that rock. 7962 Oct 2013 #50

not him, the millions of other people on ssdi you have slandered. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #101

You have trouble with words. Show me ONE comment where I've "slandered" the disabled? ONE. 7962 Oct 2013 #112

we are done. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #114

Nothing in that comment slanders or in any way insults disabled people on disability. FAIL. 7962 Oct 2013 #115

The "60 Minutes" story on SSDI was truly flawed. LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #45

+1 HuckleB Oct 2013 #90

You got lambasted because you saw a biased report claiming widespread fraud when Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #66

Getting approved is not the point. Yes, its tough for most to be approved. 7962 Oct 2013 #68

There is so much bullshit in your answer that I hardly know where to start. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #70

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #86

+ 1000 ctsnowman Oct 2013 #89

Nice to see you're probably just like your namesake; smart but little common sense 7962 Oct 2013 #113

What then is that number, what is the number based on, what is being done to prevent it, and are tho LanternWaste Oct 2013 #85

You have an odd, and quite stupid, argument jeff47 Oct 2013 #81

Disabled my Ass Stainless Oct 2013 #4

Karma. Ain't it a bitch. n/t dorkzilla Oct 2013 #5

Plus 100 yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #17

+ infinity! n/t Lugnut Oct 2013 #51

Dude, MEET KARMA! JCMach1 Oct 2013 #6

Okay, He can go to prison for a longer stretch. Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #7

yup gopiscrap Oct 2013 #35

Boy Scout leadership at its best. hog Oct 2013 #9

Your ignorance is showing. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #32

Agree ^^^ This is the LAST thing they'd condone pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #48

Or, at least, they USED to be� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #58

I agree about the LDS subsidy and the harm it has done to the orgaanization Gore1FL Oct 2013 #74

take only memories, leave only footprints RitchieRich Oct 2013 #65

Exactly! Gore1FL Oct 2013 #76

They didn't mention the BSA muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #57

"Boy Scout Leadership" was in the title of the post I responded to. You might want to re read it. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #71

It says "Boy Scout leadership"; the article says they are "Boy Scout leaders" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #73

The Boy Scout connection has zero to do with this damage. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #75

You're the one capitalising it; You're the one imagining it is 'strident' and 'loud' muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #77

OK... Gore1FL Oct 2013 #80

Again, you are capitalising a word they did not use a capital for muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #87

So now you are picking on typos? Gore1FL Oct 2013 #92

Again, you don't understand sarcasm muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #94

The entirety of the Thread said "Boy Scout leadership at its best." Gore1FL Oct 2013 #95

They are Boy Scout leaders, for fuck's sake muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #100

The are white and Mormon too. None of these factors have anything to do with their actions Gore1FL Oct 2013 #104

You accused them of ignorance, of making things up about the BSA, and of being loud and strident muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #105

I stand by what I said Gore1FL Oct 2013 #106

Strident? Loud? Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #67

It wasn't Boy Scout leadership at it's best. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #72

My point was that there was nothing the least bit loud or strident in that post. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #82

It unnecessarily attacked the BSA through association. It did so in the title. It was obnoxious Gore1FL Oct 2013 #96

Did he pray? If so, maybe it's a miracle. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #10

The insurance company's attorney for Mr. McDonald is doing his happy dance. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #11

Been there ! johnsolaris Oct 2013 #12

Galaxy Quest - was that the scene with the rock monster and teleporter? bananas Oct 2013 #60

Get a heavy-lift helicopter and crew to lift and place the rock Submariner Oct 2013 #13

Not really possible Scootaloo Oct 2013 #21

aka Dickweed Comeuppance TalkingDog Oct 2013 #14

Great values ya got there, Mr. Boy Scout Leader. City Lights Oct 2013 #15

Who is Glenn Taylor and why should I give a rat's patootie? n/t TygrBright Oct 2013 #16

Glenn Taylor is a Scout Leader who desecrated a national monument... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #18

Oh. Once again, the Clue Phone rings, this time for "Glenn." TygrBright Oct 2013 #22

State Park, actually. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #98

That dumbass looks so proud of himself. NealK Oct 2013 #109

I didn't know his name either - but LiberalElite Oct 2013 #27

Pushing over that rock really rocked his world Quixote1818 Oct 2013 #19

He destroyed an ancient rock formation, but at least he's not gay!! dorkzilla Oct 2013 #20

Looks like he ate a few of those rocks Zorro Oct 2013 #24

No excuse for what he/they did - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #25

I'm really sorry you have to deal with not only such a painful condition... deurbano Oct 2013 #33

Thank you. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #34

Yep. Everyone thinks they're an expert. Not saying there's not fraud, but Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #38

Agreed completely. joshcryer Oct 2013 #41

Agreed as to the video and the court impression. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #64

Indeed, that was what I was going for. joshcryer Oct 2013 #69

I've mostly made peace with it. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #84

I agree completely. It depends on your injury. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #44

This is where spying turns out to be justified treestar Oct 2013 #26

Who needs tort reform when the fraudsters have smart phones and youtube and no common... marble falls Oct 2013 #28

They'll laugh him out of court. haele Oct 2013 #37

Asshole Scammer. SoapBox Oct 2013 #40

Filing a lawsuit is not the same as SSDI. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #43

Well, just as long as he's not gay, that being Utah and all... mountain grammy Oct 2013 #49

maybe not gay but most likely a Mormon in good standing Hamlette Oct 2013 #54

Such fine, upstanding citizens all...like Mittens with his sissors.. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #62

Check out what he did in Taiwan just days before! hexola Oct 2013 #52

The people that dilly dally around after that boulder never heard my mother's saying - where there's Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #53

It's A Miracle!!! He Has Been HEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUULD!!!!!!!!!!! rpannier Oct 2013 #55

Guy's been getting hate mail from around the world. toby jo Oct 2013 #56

That was a 200 million year old formation Ash_F Oct 2013 #61

Make him put it back. JohnnyRingo Oct 2013 #78

The family of the teen "who caused the crash" Drale Oct 2013 #83

Whenever I see something like the balanced rock I get the urge to do the same thing AngryAmish Oct 2013 #88

It could have been worse ... undiegrinder Oct 2013 #93

God, I love the internet. ellie Oct 2013 #99

An example of the success of the 'Dumbing Down Of America' program.Don't believe me.Check it out judesedit Oct 2013 #103

Wait, I thought the Earth was only five thousand years old Alhena Oct 2013 #107

UPDATE RE: BOULDER ROLL LiberalElite Oct 2013 #110

He is a A-1 asshat davidpdx Oct 2013 #117

can't cure stupid! juajen Oct 2013 #118