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90. Yep, the child protection service there is pretty good, though, like the UK.

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 05:03 PM

Oct 2013

Almost too good, if you recall all the women accused of killing their babies because a doctor said SIDS could not occur twice in the same family....

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Irish police remove blonde child from Roma family [View all] moriah Oct 2013 OP

This is certainly going to get interesting. Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #1

This obsession with "blonde-haired" in every media story about this case BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #2

+1 moriah Oct 2013 #3

I honestly don't think that's it leftynyc Oct 2013 #6

My parents were dark-haired and dark-eyed, and produced ginger me. moriah Oct 2013 #9

Mine had four out six blonds. One is a ginger. marble falls Oct 2013 #14

I understand recessive genes leftynyc Oct 2013 #30

Yep, and that's also why I added the wink.... moriah Oct 2013 #48

I would have loved to inherit leftynyc Oct 2013 #61

Your DNA, though, would have resolved the matter immediately. MADem Oct 2013 #60

I've watched it, yes. moriah Oct 2013 #97

+1000 JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #126

My friend told me her issues Scairp Oct 2013 #77

I produced a red haired child, but we're all very pale. pnwmom Oct 2013 #78

Everyone in my family has dark hair and dark eyes ripcord Oct 2013 #107

Recessive genes are interesting. Does she resemble any of pnwmom Oct 2013 #112

No ripcord Oct 2013 #114

Depending what their DNA is, there could be as high as 1/4 chance for the kid to be theirs. Mass Oct 2013 #16

I call a 75% chance that leftynyc Oct 2013 #31

There are millions of families in this case. Should we suspect all of them? Mass Oct 2013 #32

estimates are ten million or so rom are around, you will never get exact numbers due to loli phabay Oct 2013 #34

Not talking about Roms, but about families with 2 dark eyed parents with blue eyed children. Mass Oct 2013 #40

oops, but the point is valid in both cases loli phabay Oct 2013 #44

It isn't that uncommon... PsychGrad Oct 2013 #88

I don't suspect any of them leftynyc Oct 2013 #35

Maybe less likely than that, freedom fighter jh Oct 2013 #41

I think another factor is that the romi families are less likely to have married outside their okaawhatever Oct 2013 #72

another factor is that the rom population in in the millions loli phabay Oct 2013 #109

Blondness is a juvenile trait. Bette Noir Oct 2013 #20

Same here. Dark haired family except me. charmay Oct 2013 #24

Correct Brewinblue Oct 2013 #26

Blue eyes aren't. pnwmom Oct 2013 #76

Actually, they are. moriah Oct 2013 #81

I realize that about Caucasian babies. But blue eyes are far more likely pnwmom Oct 2013 #83

It's the opposite that would be far more rare. Brewinblue Oct 2013 #21

My husband was brown haired and brown eyed from two blond and blue eyed Cleita Oct 2013 #37

Yep, it's far more uncommon but not unheard of. moriah Oct 2013 #59

I know a woman who gave birth to a very dark-skinned black baby. She and husband were both white. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #84

Both my father's parents were black BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #58

Thank you. I was feeling a lot of the same thing. moriah Oct 2013 #73

My brunette, brown-eyed parents produced one ginger, one ash blonde and one platinum blonde. politicat Oct 2013 #106

I thought it was two blonde parents could not have a dark haired child? hollysmom Oct 2013 #128

One morning show referred to the child found in Greece as the "blonde angel" Nine Oct 2013 #66

Time to run some DNA tests on the girl. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #4

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #5

A DNA test was done for the child in Greece leftynyc Oct 2013 #7

There are two of these cases? leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #8

There are more than two Warpy Oct 2013 #104

A Roma family caused my horses to go lame and tried to steal my soul Orrex Oct 2013 #10

it seems the hatred dies hard, i cant believe some of the posts i have seen recently loli phabay Oct 2013 #12

on a side note bathe the horse in salt water and tie a necklace of wildflowers loli phabay Oct 2013 #49

Science! Orrex Oct 2013 #55

it does not work when it comes to hexes and curses. sometimes you have to go old school. loli phabay Oct 2013 #57

They turned me into a newt. Iggo Oct 2013 #50

Did you get better? moriah Oct 2013 #51

I did! Iggo Oct 2013 #53

that was cruel mr gingrich, i hope you recover. loli phabay Oct 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author loli phabay Oct 2013 #11

get ready for more of this, every rom child with red hair or blonde is going to be taken loli phabay Oct 2013 #13

Very easy to establish whether the child is actually related to the people claiming to be her LisaL Oct 2013 #15

heres the question, how many adopted kids share dna with their adoptive parents loli phabay Oct 2013 #17

Considering they claim to be bio parents and not adoptive parents, what would be the LisaL Oct 2013 #18

they are going to claim to be the bio parents regardless, thats what i am saying loli phabay Oct 2013 #23

The hospital they claim the child was born in has no such record muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #68

yup, not unusual, could they used different names loli phabay Oct 2013 #69

Faking a birth certificate and lying about where the child was born is pretty nefarious in itself muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #98

no a lot of ROM are not borm in hospitals or under care of a doctor loli phabay Oct 2013 #108

Unfortunately the Roma are going to have to establish real adoption records riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #19

what will happen is an exodus from certain countries as has happened before loli phabay Oct 2013 #27

Not to mention - given the general hostility, I would think that many avoid any contact hedgehog Oct 2013 #39

its a good analogy to make, and yes due to history you dont want the authorities loli phabay Oct 2013 #45

Agreed. riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #54

leaving will probuably be the only choice for most, i dont think there can be a resolution loli phabay Oct 2013 #56

where will they go ? all of Europe (and other places) should require it JI7 Oct 2013 #71

plenty of places to disappear to, would not be the first time going underground loli phabay Oct 2013 #110

None. And my adoptive granddaughter doesn't share DNA with me. pnwmom Oct 2013 #75

Thank goodness for DNA tests. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #74

To the best of my knowledge - the travelers in Ireland hedgehog Oct 2013 #36

over the years there has been a lot of marraiges betwen the communities as you would expect loli phabay Oct 2013 #42

What no one has mentioned is that the Roma women have been targets of rape for centuries- hedgehog Oct 2013 #46

was not even going to touch that one, but yes its another way blood has enteredthefamilies loli phabay Oct 2013 #47

It is certainly true that Rom/Roma have historically suffered more BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #22

Not a maverick--just not up on all the details, which I think would change your mind. MADem Oct 2013 #62

You are absolutely correct that I don't know BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #123

I think that "Comment is Free" opinion piece may have been written before the MADem Oct 2013 #131

I join you in hoping that she ends up in a safe place. BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #132

OK. My paternal grandparents were Roma ellie Oct 2013 #25

i dont get this blonde thing either, there are plenty of rom who are blonde, loli phabay Oct 2013 #38

I didn't read the article or the comments in this thread Victor_c3 Oct 2013 #28

The blond girl in the above picture looks like the woman in pink. haele Oct 2013 #79

I thought these stories about Roma kidnapping kids had disappeared a long time ago. Mass Oct 2013 #29

What would you say if DNA tests shows they aren't the parents? Quantess Oct 2013 #93

That somebody kidnapped a child. This happens with non roma people as well. Mass Oct 2013 #95

Okay, I see your point. I blame the media. Quantess Oct 2013 #96

All of Europe has been having a huge problem with Roma gypsies TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #113

no the problem is with a minority within a minority, loli phabay Oct 2013 #115

I see you still haven't watched the documenteries n/t TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #119

so what you are saying is that all ten million or so ar at it. loli phabay Oct 2013 #121

I never said any such thing TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #124

no rom culture, really. you do understand that rom share a culture loli phabay Oct 2013 #125

its the media and an inbuilt bigotry within the public, waiting to see the next big expose loli phabay Oct 2013 #117

Could Maury do a show from Dublin? KamaAina Oct 2013 #33

Irony of ironies - it's only been a few years since the scandal of the Magdelene laundries broke - hedgehog Oct 2013 #43

That was child trafficking, too, and it was just as wrong. Children, used as cash cows, MADem Oct 2013 #63

Absolutely wrong get the red out Oct 2013 #86

How awful! JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #127

True story: colorado_ufo Oct 2013 #64

Well fer sure, fer sure,...blondes are, like, TOTALLY the best. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #65

Don't shrink me, Gypsy. AngryAmish Oct 2013 #67

. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #103

What they need to do is start requiring legal paperwork, and does europe not require Kids to attend JI7 Oct 2013 #70

That's going to be the end result--DNA tests required for all home births may soon be law. MADem Oct 2013 #91

Well, we certainly don't want to offend them Quantess Oct 2013 #80

The police aren't supposed to question this get the red out Oct 2013 #82

All I ask is slightly more probable cause than looks. moriah Oct 2013 #85

Irish : not Uk dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #89

Yep, the child protection service there is pretty good, though, like the UK. moriah Oct 2013 #90

Its not all that here in the UK. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #94

was it darlington that had that huge scandal a decade or so ago loli phabay Oct 2013 #116

It doesn't follow that they are not Irish. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #87

Though they are from Romania originally muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #101

Thanks dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #102

Everyone else's ancestors once belonged to a tightly-knit pre-industrial culture. raging moderate Oct 2013 #92

who exactly would give these guarentees, sorry but lies have been told before loli phabay Oct 2013 #111

could you imagine Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #99

Removed a child with an apparently fake birth certificate? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #100

cos reactng Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #105

it seems that its okay to hate on some minorities, wish there was a list somewhere. loli phabay Oct 2013 #118

Update: Tip Came In Through Facebook, Hospital Records Checking Out Legit Now? moriah Oct 2013 #120

cant be, theres a couple of tv shows that show all rom steal kids loli phabay Oct 2013 #122

Irish police return blonde girl to Roma family Eugene Oct 2013 #129

crying out for a lawsuit. loli phabay Oct 2013 #130