Irish police remove blonde child from Roma family

[moriah]

97. I've watched it, yes.

And even that documentary indicates it's not as much a cultural thing as a product of the way society deals with the Roma. In Britain, all Romanian citizens are discriminated against in employment availability, not just gypsies. There are Roma from other Eastern European countries who do not beg in the UK, because they are able to work.

Are all of those women who were begging with their children perpetrators, or are some of them victims as well? Like in the FLDS case, it's hard for me to come down extremely hard on people who are essentially forced or coerced through circumstances to be collaborators, and women in poverty with children to support are *extremely* vulnerable to trafficking of all kinds. There are instances where the level of collaboration merits prosecution -- the "wives" who held the poor girl down in Texas, for example, particularly the one who traveled with Jeffs. Or women who are actually handlers of those children rather than the parents of those children. One of the documentaries in particular tried to track down one of the mothers, and she'd been forced into prostitution and then sent there with her own kids -- it's hard for me to see her as anything other than a victim and doing what she has to do to survive.

Benefits fraud? I'll be honest, that's the last priority in my mind, in comparison to forcing kids to beg.