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In reply to the discussion: Irish police remove blonde child from Roma family [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)There are millions of Roma people, but what we are discussing here is NOT all of them but the HUGE subset of Roma GYPSY people that have spread throughout Europe exploiting their children, who do not work, and who live in horrible filthy camps in those countries that allow them.
We're talking specifically about Roma GYPSY culture. It's you that has been insisting that we've been discussing in all these threads about ALL Roma people, and we are not. We're talking about the large contingent of traditional Roma GYPSIES that still follow centuries old tradition of being nomadic clannish people that have spread out through Europe building utterly filthy shanties from whatever materials they can find or steal with no sanitation, no drinking water, no heat, no electricity unless they steal it by illegally tapping electrical lines, etc. that live under a hierarchy where no one works at a job, and they finance themselves and their higher-ups with money made by scams, theft and begging and where it is their own children they exploit that makes the money most of which goes back to the higher-ups in each clan all the way up to the headman who is filthy rich and lives in a palace. And these people living in these horrible conditions are NOT poor. They have cellphones, stereos, plenty of food to eat, plenty of modern clothing, etc.
Most Roma people have assimilated into the society where they live and put down roots. They have regular jobs with normal housing, etc., but we have not been talking about them. Geez, the family in Greece and now this one in Ireland are part of the GYPSY Roma culture, not the "Roma culture" nor even the "Romani culture" since there is no such thing.
Yet you've been plowing through all these threads trying to sell the notion that the abusive subset of Roma GYPSIES are nothing more than the majority of ethnic Roma people that are NOT gypsies and have joined the modern world of working honestly for a living and not exploiting their children or their females. It is this SUBSET that ARE that we've been talking about while you've been trying to excuse them while also getting all irrational about insisting that we're talking about ALL Roma people when we are NOT.
And the very problem with this subset of Roma gypsy culture is that it is freaking HUGE and spread through almost all of Europe. Hundreds of children being forced by their own families to beg and steal and are abused when their minders who are most often their own mothers aren't satisfied with the day's take in ONE city of ONE country of Europe is grotesque. Add in all the cities and all the other countries throughout Europe living in filth and exploiting their children and females they marry off at 12 or 13 years old there is no question whatsoever that that subset is fucking STAGGERING.