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hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
37. These drugs are a huge problem in my state
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:31 AM
Oct 2013

We have a huge population of junkies.

The medical system is overwhelmed with fallout from these people. OD is the leading cause of death for those under 45 in my state.

The mayor of War WV was actually killed by junkies who needed money for pills.

I've had several clients who tried to dissolve time release pain patches and OD'd on them.

There are 10 houses on my hollow and 3 people have died from OD's on my hollow alone.

Most of the people are not insured or are on medicaid so it adds a huge amount of unecessary expense to the system.

A very good friend got addicted and died not from OD but from Liver Cancer due to poorly controlled Hepatitis.

Medical marijuana would be a WAY better thing to give for chronic pain. If you run out of pot you may feel pain but your first thought is not to rob someone

Also while the reg may help SOME, I believe that, just like the crack epidemic of the 80's there is a HUGE economic aspect to this problem. Basically I review medical claims and about the time we reformed welfare and instituted fly overs and widespread drug testing we began to see an increase in the abuse of painkillers.

If you are poor and get medicaid and can get benzodiazapenes or painkillers then you can sell them and make WAY more than you used to be able to on AFDC.

I met one guy who told me that after an on the job accident he could no longer do construction and had to work in food. His salary went from 20 to 12 an hour but he made his child support and truck payment by selling his vicodin and just dealing with the pain.

I used to work with another girl who had femal surgery. The doctor gave her a big bottle of painkillers she took them for about a week and then sold the rest in her trailer park and totally paid off her deductable.

A friend in another town tells me he has several neighbors who have got their kids or themselves diagnosed with ADD so they can get and sell the Adderal they get.

It's a huge supplement to some peoples income. Also with the junkies you really don't want to let anybody know you have been to the hospital for surgery or anything or you are inviting a break in.


http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201207200057

http://wvmetronews.com/2013/10/08/west-virginia-ranks-first-in-drug-overdose-deaths/

http://www.fbi.gov/pittsburgh/press-releases/2012/lincoln-county-woman-faces-federal-charges-in-teays-valley-nursing-home-robbery

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/Elderly_Woman_Beaten_and_Tied_Up_During_Home_Invasion_117371558.html

http://www.wvva.com/story/20197628/2012/11/27/woman-robbed-in-her-driveway

http://wvmetronews.com/2013/06/27/prescription-pill-addiction-led-to-hostage-situation/


Seriously it's a HUGE problem and really a big burden on the legal and health care system. I dont' think people in pain should be denied medicine, especially people in ACUTE pain, but there are better ways to control chronic pain than addictive drugs.

However WV is either dead last or near last in income and any solution will have to take into consideration that a LOT of the spread has to do with economics.

As they have toughened up on prescribing the stuff here numerous out of state gangs have moved in to fill the demand with pills from Florida where they are still lax or with heroin and then you got gangs from Columbus, and Detroit shooting it out in WV.

They've opened Pandoras box overprescribing these things and it's going to be a slow process in weaning people off of these things without causing even more problems.




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Ridiculous. It's bullshit to make people who need help managing pain jump through more hoops to get Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #1
fortunately Big Pharma will crush this move. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #4
I agree.....but.... alfie Oct 2013 #8
But only street opioids, right? FrodosPet Oct 2013 #17
No, overdoses can be with prescription or street drugs alfie Oct 2013 #19
It seems like they want you to blow your liver out as punishment AAO Oct 2013 #43
I had my doctor switch my meds because of the Tylenol thecrow Oct 2013 #53
It's sad that some doctors don't know these things. But good for you! AAO Oct 2013 #54
You own "doctor" had no idea? Damn, you may want to get another doctor! AAO Oct 2013 #58
That was 2 doctors ago. thecrow Oct 2013 #61
ESpecially when jumping through Control-Z Oct 2013 #11
I agree with your assessment. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #26
Typical fascist tactics Trillo Oct 2013 #29
Narcotics are primarily for the treatment of moderately-severe to severe acute pain. Aristus Oct 2013 #48
Would you list these new modalities? Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #57
I agree. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #56
There are those who will go to any length to make the lives of anyone else as miserable as possible. RC Oct 2013 #2
Prohibition is a failed public policy...including the legal drugs. nt TeamPooka Oct 2013 #3
Gee Wally, I'm confused, Martak Sarno Oct 2013 #5
You look very nice today, Mrs. C, is that a new hairdo? - Eddie Haskel AAO Oct 2013 #44
I take a schedule II for ADD. I take it when I have a test or need to dedicate my full attention to Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #6
I Get Tired Of This grilled onions Oct 2013 #7
So true! n/t bobGandolf Oct 2013 #18
Amen! beerandjesus Oct 2013 #21
So we have to run up our doctor bills to get our pain meds? Shrike47 Oct 2013 #9
Why would the current administration allow such nastiness and unnecessary bullshit? seveneyes Oct 2013 #10
I'm sure the President personally makes every single decision for every single govt. department groundloop Oct 2013 #13
He has time to put in a good word for people suffering seveneyes Oct 2013 #20
That's right, the President has absolutely no control over drug policy. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #22
Mom, 92, is treated like a criminal. SoapBox Oct 2013 #12
+1 jsr Oct 2013 #49
+1000 JCMach1 Oct 2013 #52
I got some of those prescribed after oral surgery. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #14
Great. Bette Noir Oct 2013 #15
You mean Tramadol, right? AAO Oct 2013 #47
Yeah, toradol does nothing and have serious long term side effects Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #65
It's sold OTC in England tblue Oct 2013 #16
Does anyone here live in the south? ileus Oct 2013 #23
Is there a public comment period on this? Seeking Serenity Oct 2013 #24
For pity's sake, a lot of doctors are already reticient to prescribe pain meds. winter is coming Oct 2013 #25
I know my family doctor is. Seeking Serenity Oct 2013 #27
And a lot of doctors are already prescribing them like candy to people who are obviously not in pain tridim Oct 2013 #28
And I had a friend who committed suicide because her chronic pain issues were too much winter is coming Oct 2013 #30
Right, as I said, it's a complex problem. tridim Oct 2013 #32
It's not clear to me that restricting access even further is a solution, either. winter is coming Oct 2013 #33
Common electronic scripts... Shared between doctors, pharmacists and drug makers. tridim Oct 2013 #34
How could that be made HIPAA-compliant, though? winter is coming Oct 2013 #35
HIPAA needs an update. tridim Oct 2013 #40
Sorry for your loss thecrow Oct 2013 #62
Same situation here. anniebelle Dec 2016 #66
Who are these doctors? I've never met one nor have my friends. Seeking Serenity Oct 2013 #31
Here you go hollowdweller Oct 2013 #38
If you're in pain, and a doc won't prescribe, but another will Trillo Oct 2013 #36
These drugs are a huge problem in my state hollowdweller Oct 2013 #37
Excellent synopsis. blue neen Oct 2013 #63
Desn't the FDA have more serious matters to address? Laelth Oct 2013 #39
As far as addiction goes, opioids are THE most serious issue in this country. tridim Oct 2013 #41
I have known a number of addicts, yes. Laelth Oct 2013 #45
The FDA isn't crusading against the ~legal~ use of opioids. tridim Oct 2013 #46
***FUCK THAT*** hunter Oct 2013 #42
Rich people will have no problem with it jsr Oct 2013 #50
Meanwhile, drugs that are approved worldwide for pain JCMach1 Oct 2013 #51
Aceitomenophen is 10x more dangerous than Hydrocodone Taverner Oct 2013 #60
I believe they're wrong! bobGandolf Oct 2013 #55
Yes, because that will obviously stop abuse... Taverner Oct 2013 #59
punish everyone because the abuses of a few Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #64
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