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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
82. Normally, I'd agree with you.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:31 AM
Feb 2012

Currently, my thinking is in line with 2012 or Never by Jonathan Chait in the current issue of NY Magazine. The demographics are skewing towards an end of the current flavor of conservatism; by the next time the GOP has an opportunity at retaking the Senate or winning the Presidency, they may be so far behind the 8-ball and the makeup of the nation may have changed so much that Reagan Conservatism may not be viable.

The GOP has reason to be scared. Obama’s election was the vindication of a prediction made several years before by journalist John Judis and political scientist Ruy Teixeira in their 2002 book, The Emerging Democratic Majority. Despite the fact that George W. Bush then occupied the White House, Judis and Teixeira argued that demographic and political trends were converging in such a way as to form a ­natural-majority coalition for Democrats.

The Republican Party had increasingly found itself confined to white voters, especially those lacking a college degree and rural whites who, as Obama awkwardly put it in 2008, tend to “cling to guns or religion.” Meanwhile, the Democrats had ­increased their standing among whites with graduate degrees, particularly the growing share of secular whites, and remained dominant among racial minorities. As a whole, Judis and Teixeira noted, the electorate was growing both somewhat better educated and dramatically less white, making every successive election less favorable for the GOP. And the trends were even more striking in some key swing states. Judis and Teixeira highlighted Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona, with skyrocketing Latino populations, and Virginia and North Carolina, with their influx of college-educated whites, as the most fertile grounds for the expanding Democratic base.

-Jonathan Chait. 2012 or Never http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-primary-chait-2012-3/


While it'd be nice to have a supermajority, I don't think we need it. I think we can get by with the reasonable change to actually requiring filibusters to happen.

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this should be a state we can pick up a seat in JI7 Feb 2012 #1
I think she feared a crazy Teabagger for an opponent. Maine has a Teabag governor Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #5
Our Tea Bag Governor won with 36% of the vote WonderGrunion Feb 2012 #40
Oh no. I can't imagine she feared that primary opponent. MaineDem Feb 2012 #52
I agree with you. MADem Feb 2012 #93
Governor 38% will unite dems magical thyme Feb 2012 #104
Oh, this is huge. NWHarkness Feb 2012 #6
What used to be her party> Returning Survivor Feb 2012 #44
That would be wonderful wryter2000 Feb 2012 #57
They will run a bagger> Returning Survivor Feb 2012 #108
I hope so--the current governor is creepy-crazy. MADem Feb 2012 #92
WOW! This is huge news! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #2
Reaction, Mainer's? Will this go to a RWer teabagger or do Dems have a shot? hlthe2b Feb 2012 #3
This automatically becomes Lean Democrat NWHarkness Feb 2012 #7
Good to hear. elleng Feb 2012 #9
Four candidates announced NWHarkness Feb 2012 #13
Here's a critical and funny (I think) review of the Democratic field. bluedigger Feb 2012 #26
Al is an equal opportunity funny man MaineDem Feb 2012 #31
At the time, it was political whimsy. bluedigger Feb 2012 #35
He's a hot shit, isn't he? MADem Feb 2012 #94
"Hot skitch" is how my ex-MIL would have put it, lol. bluedigger Feb 2012 #96
Hee hee...we know, though, what she meant, don't we? MADem Feb 2012 #101
I'd hate to lose Pingree as my rep magical thyme Feb 2012 #102
Carpe Diem. bluedigger Feb 2012 #103
she writes to her constituents magical thyme Feb 2012 #106
You're running a skinny Democrat? aquart Feb 2012 #48
Maine druidqueen Feb 2012 #91
Wow Robbins Feb 2012 #4
This... Is... Awesome :) craigmatic Feb 2012 #8
Good, she lied thru her teeth about the Public Option. Good bye. grantcart Feb 2012 #10
agreed kenfrequed Feb 2012 #18
and after voting for the health care bill in committee, voted against it on the floor CreekDog Feb 2012 #47
Democratic pickup. We keep the Senate. nt onehandle Feb 2012 #11
It ain't done till its done quakerboy Feb 2012 #14
Man, I hope we don't end the filibuster. sofa king Feb 2012 #59
Disagree quakerboy Feb 2012 #65
I'm ok with the Filibuster - as long as they actually stand up and talk the whole time. SWTORFanatic Feb 2012 #105
Or even just "they say they will fillibuster the bill, so we won't even bring it for a vote" quakerboy Feb 2012 #115
I couldn't agree more. harmonicon Feb 2012 #118
Normally, I'd agree with you. Chan790 Feb 2012 #82
That's a viable possibility. sofa king Feb 2012 #109
And Warren will beat Brown in Mass as well. RedSpartan Feb 2012 #20
A 50/50 majority with Biden as our trump card. Lasher Feb 2012 #84
Based on your link I would say Democrats have a lot more to be optimistic about than everyone says. ieoeja Feb 2012 #111
Don't make too much of the website I linked. Lasher Feb 2012 #117
we will get the seat back hrmjustin Feb 2012 #12
oh please oh please oh please d_b Feb 2012 #15
Historically I think that she has not had a hard time getting re-elected. However, avebury Feb 2012 #16
Meh... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #27
BDN article on Snowe's decision NWHarkness Feb 2012 #17
Reading that article, a party switch may be on tap Strelnikov_ Feb 2012 #67
Here's the current Democratic field... brooklynite Feb 2012 #19
Washington Post: "Democrats will be heavy favorites to steal this seat from Republicans" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #21
There will be a Maine Democrat in the Senate in 2013 jpak Feb 2012 #22
That's Ed Muskie's and George Mitchell's seat. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #68
Her statement makes it sound like she's fed up with the GOP mainer Feb 2012 #23
She could run 3rd party and win. She's well-liked in Maine. Chipper Chat Feb 2012 #72
I don't see that happening at all MaineDem Feb 2012 #73
Yeah, sounds like she's had enough. Chipper Chat Feb 2012 #98
When is the other one's seat up? Collins. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #24
Collins would be the very last "moderate" Republican in Congress Zambero Feb 2012 #83
She should go Indy, and sit next to Bernie...! nt MADem Feb 2012 #95
Good! Hey Democrat's, Don't fuck it up! n/t Firebrand Gary Feb 2012 #25
TPM Livewire: Dems: Maine Is Prime Pickup Opportunity With Snowe Gone flpoljunkie Feb 2012 #28
My phone and emails have been going nuts! MaineDem Feb 2012 #29
Yes, if we get the right candidate and if some indy candidate doesn't frig it up for us. RBInMaine Feb 2012 #32
I don't believe an indie cn put together the signatures NWHarkness Feb 2012 #39
Independents have until June 1 to file petitions but... MaineDem Feb 2012 #89
Yes, we have a very good chance to pick up this seat now. We have some good candidates: RBInMaine Feb 2012 #30
That'll change. More mainstream GOPers will come forward MaineDem Feb 2012 #34
Wow just wow! EmeraldCityGrl Feb 2012 #33
Good point MaineDem Feb 2012 #36
Don't need a new candidate jeff47 Feb 2012 #42
Four. MaineDem Feb 2012 #54
I'm just not all that concerned if they don't have anyone on the ballot. jeff47 Feb 2012 #110
I don't see the logic in that NWHarkness Feb 2012 #41
Until we know who the gop candidate EmeraldCityGrl Feb 2012 #53
Yeah, Chellie Pingree NWHarkness Feb 2012 #64
Just read as much about her as I could find and she sounds EmeraldCityGrl Feb 2012 #77
It can't help the GOP MaineDem Feb 2012 #55
She could have simply switched parties OmahaBlueDog Feb 2012 #37
Who is this "we" you speak of? NWHarkness Feb 2012 #43
I don't think Snowe could switch parties. She's a Republican through and through. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #45
if she could win a Democratic primary CreekDog Feb 2012 #51
Good point, but I was really thinking of this election only OmahaBlueDog Feb 2012 #116
it's before the filing deadline for the primary, why wouldn't they field someone? CreekDog Feb 2012 #124
Realizing it's a moot point, how would you get the signatures by the 15th? OmahaBlueDog Mar 2012 #125
Are you kidding me? You think they can't collect 2,000 signatures in 15 days? CreekDog Mar 2012 #126
No, I'm not kidding you - I didn't realize the threshold was as low as 2K OmahaBlueDog Mar 2012 #127
"We" don't want her. n/t MaineDem Feb 2012 #56
this gives democrats an unexpected opportunity book_worm Feb 2012 #38
Holy shit. One of the Maine ladies quit????? aquart Feb 2012 #46
Wow! Arkana Feb 2012 #49
2 consecutive days of good news with regard to the Senate existentialist Feb 2012 #50
Did I miss that? Kerrey is running for the Senate now? Firebrand Gary Feb 2012 #58
Yes existentialist Feb 2012 #76
Never liked her. . . BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #60
It's a Dodge... Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #61
This is a likely pick-up. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #62
Four Dems so far MaineDem Feb 2012 #63
We wish you good luck with this new opportunity! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2012 #69
Benjamin Pollard NWHarkness Feb 2012 #75
Huge effort to draft Chellie Pingree sandyd921 Feb 2012 #120
She's taken out nomination papers. MaineDem Feb 2012 #121
Maybe she wants her soul back lunatica Feb 2012 #66
Spam deleted by cyberswede (MIR Team) dsfgerher Feb 2012 #70
She never really seemed like the type for today's Repuke Party. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #71
Congratulations Republicans fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #74
I Don't Give Snowe Any Slack DallasNE Feb 2012 #78
Good potential pickup fujiyama Feb 2012 #79
wow, this is awesome high density Feb 2012 #80
Looks like the Republicans have eaten one of their own!! center rising Feb 2012 #81
Not really surprising. She didn't want to run last time. Has osteoporosis. RBInMaine Feb 2012 #85
"My way or the highway".....This is how she described chelsea0011 Feb 2012 #86
Good riddance. Too bad Collins will still be there though. (nt) PotatoChip Feb 2012 #87
There goes another moderate. spicegal Feb 2012 #88
Good riddance to the coy one Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #90
Coy one? She voted for repeal of DADT. I think she was one of the "reasonable ones." MADem Feb 2012 #107
Olympia Snowe was one of the few republicans I liked. She was an old school republican LynneSin Feb 2012 #97
She voted with the assholes most of the time. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #99
Oh I know that but for a republican she was tolerable LynneSin Feb 2012 #100
BYE BYE SNOWE, HELLO CHELLIE PINGREE! drynberg Feb 2012 #112
Congressman Michaud has taken out nomination papers for Senate MaineDem Feb 2012 #113
This is going to be crazy; former Governor Baldacci now in the race. MaineDem Feb 2012 #114
If Pingree gets it, her House seat will be vacant and... mainer Feb 2012 #119
Her seat is up for re-election in November like all members of COngress MaineDem Feb 2012 #122
Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) gfhrtsdfw Feb 2012 #123
A good analysis of the demographics in Maine MaineDem Mar 2012 #128
Congressman Michaud is NOT running for Senate seat MaineDem Mar 2012 #129
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