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OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
4. In 2007, he promised to filibuster
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oct 2013

any bill which provided retroactive immunity for telecoms.

In 2007, Obama was going to filibuster any bill that gave retroactive immunity to the telecoms that helped the Bush administration illegally spy on US citizens.

Obama's wiretapping flip-flop? Yes
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jul/14/obamas-wiretapping-flip-flop-yes/

In October 2007, Obama spokesman Bill Burton issued this unequivocal statement to the liberal blog TPM Election Central: "To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

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But Obama knows how to drive a hard bargain, making he (and Rahm) the top recipients in the Senate and House of 2008 campaign contributions from AT&T employees and PAC.

Obama: $270,191
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000076&party=D&chamber=S&type=P&cycle=2008

Rahm: $50,650
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000076&chamber=H&party=D&cycle=2008&state=&sort=A

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Obama supported an amendment that would have stripped telecom immunity from the measure. But after that amendment failed, Obama declined to filibuster the bill. In fact, he voted for it. It passed the Senate, 69-28, on July 9. The House passed the same bill last month, and Bush said he would sign it soon. (McCain missed the vote because he was campaigning in Ohio, but he has consistently supported the immunity plan.)

In a message to supporters, Obama defended his position, citing a phrase Democrats fought to include that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is the "exclusive" means of wiretapping for intelligence. The bill "is far better than the Protect America Act that I voted against last year... (because it) makes it clear to any president or telecommunications company that no law supersedes the authority of the FISA court."

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And here we are with another promise.

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So whats new about this, has he not made the same promise earlier? Thucydides Oct 2013 #1
He sure did, but maybe he... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #2
We will see, maybe, could be, then maybe not, someday, I think, I dunno, let me check the polls.... Thucydides Oct 2013 #3
This time... winter is coming Oct 2013 #8
. Thucydides Oct 2013 #9
In 2007, he promised to filibuster OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #4
Ever wonder what Native Americans felt like... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #5
I'm understanding how the Japanese felt OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #6
I was never disappointed in Barack Ace Acme Oct 2013 #12
Yeah, it's impossible to be disappointed... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #18
I'd already been through the "eleventh dimensional chess" fantasy with Kerry Ace Acme Oct 2013 #19
There was no premature capitulation - it was the latest concession in over 50 years if karynnj Oct 2013 #23
He promised he would fight to see that every vote was counted Ace Acme Oct 2013 #24
The votes are NEVER completely counted until at least 2 or 3 weeks after the election is over karynnj Oct 2013 #28
You're getting it! That's my point. Thus his concession was premature. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #29
Conceding had NOTHING to do with the count karynnj Oct 2013 #30
He wasn't the slowest to concede. Bush never did concede. That was slower. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #31
Elizabeth Edwards wrote many things in that book JUST to try to get support in 2008 karynnj Oct 2013 #32
His environmental appointments were pretty telling, as well villager Oct 2013 #26
Not to mention appointing Goldman Sachs his financial advisor nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #33
But he didn't know MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #7
Clandestine services have always done this Scairp Oct 2013 #10
Haha. davidthegnome Oct 2013 #11
Please provide some evidence that the Germans have been tapping Obama's phone. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #13
Uhh davidthegnome Oct 2013 #15
You claimed there was some equivalence. We spy on them, they spy on us. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #16
So you're claiming that they don't. davidthegnome Oct 2013 #20
I'd say the difference is that... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #21
Well there you have it. Everybody spies. Case closed. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #34
Oh, good. I feel better now that he's on the case. Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #14
Can't he just make her feel more "comfortable" with it, woo me with science Oct 2013 #17
How about some changes when it comes to spying on Americans?...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #22
How about they just close the NSA facilities in MD and UT Ace Acme Oct 2013 #25
an Obama promise means nothing. bowens43 Oct 2013 #27
Maybe the difference between the putative progressives and the neocons is , , , Ace Acme Oct 2013 #35
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