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happyslug

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9. Is this going to die, for the same reason it died in the 1990s?
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:12 PM
Nov 2013

Presently it take Amtrak 47 minutes (40 minutes on the Acela) to go from DC to Baltimore. The distance is 35 miles

http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/583/797/Thanksgiving-Timetable-NEC-2013.pdf

http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/170/959/Northeast-Corridor-1-Schedule-101413,0.pdf

Given the distance, 35 miles. If a train did the trip at 70 mph, it could make the trip in about 30 minutes. At 150 mph, in 15 minutes.

Mag-lev comes into its own at speeds greater then 300 mph and distances of more then 100 miles, below that speed or distance, steel wheel on steel rail is both cheaper and faster.

Acela gets up to 150 MPH today. Its average speed is so much slower do to stopping and starting at the various stops between Baltimore and DC and the need to slow down to 80 mph when crossing certain bridges that need major overhaul for safe operations at 150-160mph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela_Express

The problem is the road bed and the right of way, DC to Baltimore to Philadelphia to NYC to Boston is the only profitable route for AMTRAK, and then only by ignoring the need to upgrade various sections of the rail way. Sorry, we can run a train between Baltimore and DC in 15 minutes TODAY, if we upgrade the existing right of way AND cut out all the stops in between. Such an upgrade would be less disruptive for this is through one of the most highly densely populated area in the Country, in addition to costing less then a MAGLEV project.

That upgrading the present AMTRAK system would be more cost effective then a MAGLEV system is what killed MAGLEV in the past, and will do so in the future. Why adopt an untested system when a tested system can be used cheaper, quicker and more frequently then the untested system?

we should have it for the whole nation gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
I agree! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #2
I think only China has it jakeXT Nov 2013 #7
England had one, from 1984 to 1995, closed it down no spare parts, happyslug Nov 2013 #11
I've ridden on that a few times davidpdx Nov 2013 #29
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #3
Sounds like a good idea to me. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #4
Not holding my breath. elleng Nov 2013 #5
Here's an interesting idea: a train that never stops. . . Journeyman Nov 2013 #6
Sorry, but President Christie will shut this down because it creates jobs and helps people. onehandle Nov 2013 #8
Is this going to die, for the same reason it died in the 1990s? happyslug Nov 2013 #9
Thanks. elleng Nov 2013 #10
When this was proposed for Baltimore, it was suggested for Pittsburgh happyslug Nov 2013 #13
AND would never obtain necessary rights of way, elleng Nov 2013 #17
Not exactly untested cvoogt Nov 2013 #12
I did use the word "untested" but I meant "Untested" in the real world. happyslug Nov 2013 #14
Thx for clarification cvoogt Nov 2013 #22
Question: how many people travel between Baltimore and Washington? brooklynite Nov 2013 #19
I have to defer to people who has access to those numbers happyslug Nov 2013 #20
DC-Boston "the only profitable route...and then only by ignoring the need to upgrade" wordpix Nov 2013 #21
Let's hope so. Maglev is a neat toy, but impractical. Xithras Nov 2013 #32
As a Transportation Planner, let me say this is foolish... brooklynite Nov 2013 #15
Right. elleng Nov 2013 #18
I agree with you davidpdx Nov 2013 #28
So much good info from so many of you above! 7962 Nov 2013 #16
way to expensive to be practical madrchsod Nov 2013 #23
transportation of the future Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #24
I was in 5th grade when I came up with the concept of mag-lev trains. AArmstrong Nov 2013 #25
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
Nothing new this was talked about in the 80's and it died..... Historic NY Nov 2013 #26
we have some very old stone bridges Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #30
Those old stone bridges can take the stress of those trains. happyslug Nov 2013 #33
Thanks for the info Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #34
Will mass/centralized travel survive the future? One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #31
Perhaps future transport will be flying through the air in small craft Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #35
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