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17. A government spying on its own citizens is a much bigger deal than

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:55 PM

Nov 2013

a government spying on the rest of the world.

Also, spies operating without proper control from elected branches is disturbing regardless of whom they're spying on.

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Report: NSA spied on Israel, shared intelligence [View all] Indi Guy Nov 2013 OP

Thwarting democracy, spreading corruption, where ever we go. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #1

Jonathan Pollard was unavailable for comment, I presume nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #2

Yes. He's in prison for the crime of spying. last1standing Nov 2013 #6

Pollard is an American citizen. I would expect a German or Israeli geek tragedy Nov 2013 #7

So your theory is that if Pollard had been an Isreali citizen that would have been fine? last1standing Nov 2013 #9

He never would have been hired had he been an Israeli citizen. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #10

Ah! The NSA betraying the trust of the people is fine, exposing the crimes of a rogue agency is bad. last1standing Nov 2013 #11

Sure. Not offended by it in the least. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #12

Then we have a fundamental difference in opinion on what is acceptable. last1standing Nov 2013 #13

A government spying on its own citizens is a much bigger deal than geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17

Spying on allies is a very big deal. last1standing Nov 2013 #18

Spying at one level or another is inevitable. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #19

Doesn't matter is he also had been an Israeli citizen. As a US citizen, he had a legal obligation 24601 Nov 2013 #14

The NSA had a legal obligation not to spy on US citizens. last1standing Nov 2013 #15

Many of whom you speak are in perfect agreement with the Feinstein agenda. n/t Indi Guy Nov 2013 #36

We're not the only country that jails spies. C'mon already. nt brush Nov 2013 #33

Since I never stated that we are, you must have responded to the wrong poster. last1standing Nov 2013 #35

Your post makes it seem that the US . . . brush Nov 2013 #40

I'll just copy/paste my response to the silly-ass comment you made to me in another thread. last1standing Nov 2013 #45

Talk about silly . . . brush Nov 2013 #46

As I originally wrote that comment more than nine hours before your latest response... last1standing Nov 2013 #47

Whatever you say brush Nov 2013 #48

LOL! You call me "naive" then make the untrue claim that I'm "name calling." last1standing Nov 2013 #49

God! Sure your elevator goes to the top floor? brush Nov 2013 #50

You have no clue what you're talking about so you resort to insults when you can't argue logically. last1standing Nov 2013 #51

Ahhh . . . you're the one that resorted to the name calling brush Nov 2013 #52

Again with insults and comments that aren't true. last1standing Nov 2013 #53

Your words upthread: brush Nov 2013 #54

Most intelligent people would consider that a condemnation of your comments. last1standing Nov 2013 #55

Learning Daily How Out Of Control The NSA Truly Is cantbeserious Nov 2013 #3

Good. Glad they have been. iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #4

Wow. Snowden is the gift that keeps on giving. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #5

Well Israel spies on us so that's even Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #8

It's creepy how ethnic this spying fiasco is. Ash_F Nov 2013 #16

Israel spies on the US, so no they don't get to join the club nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #20

Don't get me wrong, I don't think they should. Ash_F Nov 2013 #23

The five eyes don't spy on each other--basic rule of admission. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #26

So you don't think there is any racial aspect to it? Ash_F Nov 2013 #27

They were the five anglo countries that were unambiguously allied with the US. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #29

Interesting observation Ash_F Nov 2013 #31

Based on a 1941 treaty nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #30

I'm not sure thats true. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #42

The Israeli gov. has many fingers in the American pie... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #21

NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #24

I do remember this, might even have posted a thread on it. Thanks for posting. Purveyor Nov 2013 #28

The whole 'israel' angle to the Snowden revelations have been missing so far. Either Snowden is Purveyor Nov 2013 #22

see above...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #25

is anyone actually surprised by this dlwickham Nov 2013 #32

Exactamundo! brush Nov 2013 #34

I don't think it's people being naive dlwickham Nov 2013 #39

Yes, there is definitely that. brush Nov 2013 #41

Nope. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #38

I'm sure these leaks are in part to give the feeling to Americans that we were not singled out for Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #43

I'd be more interested in knowing what nations we HAVEN'T been spying on Scootaloo Nov 2013 #37

kick for truth... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #44