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In reply to the discussion: NSA, Homeland Security issue ‘cease and desist’ letters to novelty store owner [View all]Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)5. "The only part of the government that actually listens"
Good one.
And now, General Alexander, may I ask how that compromised national security?
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NSA, Homeland Security issue ‘cease and desist’ letters to novelty store owner [View all]
Indi Guy
Nov 2013
OP
So far you're the only person who has brought up Snowden in this thread.
ForgoTheConsequence
Nov 2013
#18
But the unauthorized use of official seals is not. It's like one of us using the
alfredo
Nov 2013
#19
That is OUR trademark. And I think his is a far better use of it than it's official one. n/t
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#21
Government of the people, by the people, etc. It's our US Government, too. LOL.
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#30
It's not theirs. It's ours. They work for us, and not as contractors either. And I get
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#32
But if the creator of the seal transferred the rights to homeland security, then
alfredo
Nov 2013
#56
LOL! Your "ownership" of such a logo or seal is about 0.0000003%. Should you want to change
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#92
Fucking Congress works for us. So does everyone else up there. And I don't give a rat's ass what
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#96
This should be protected by the right "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Towlie
Nov 2013
#84
Doesn't matter, it wouldn't be covered by copyright because its a product of the government...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#76
As far as I'm aware of, there is no copyright, works of the government are public domain...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#95
There had to be some legal basis for the cease and desist. It would have be stupid to act otherwise.
alfredo
Nov 2013
#99
Not really, never underestimate the irrationality of large organizations...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#100
I guarantee you that if logo was used for T's that put the NSA in a positive light...
Indi Guy
Nov 2013
#110
Depending on the Agency, and the use it makes of the seal, there may be additional considerations
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#86
Yes, if the seal is a government seal and if the condoms were clearly a work of satire or criticism
Yo_Mama
Nov 2013
#67
I still don't understand how they can say it is protected under copyright law and trademark law?
alfredo
Nov 2013
#82
Some might see more of a gap, than you do, between (say) a federal agency restricting the use
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#94
Oh, yah! That's exactly what happened in Germany! One day, they restricted the reproduction
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#108
(1) The statute protecting the NSA seal is more than 50 years; and (2) the NSA claims
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#121
It's actually very common for Federal agencies to control use of their logos and insignia:
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#116
Perhaps you should read more carefully: statutes also appear in my links
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#118
That's all very interesting, and I'm glad to hear what the FBI (not mentioned in the OP) thinks, ...
Indi Guy
Nov 2013
#124
"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;...." nt
Deep13
Nov 2013
#12
The "We can't confirm whether we exist or not, but stop the copyright infringement," arguement.
marble falls
Nov 2013
#14
By my wife's thinking this would fall under Free speech-- 1st Amendment issue.
diabeticman
Nov 2013
#41
If people have the right to burn the flag, surely they have the right to parody the seals
Yo_Mama
Nov 2013
#50
re:. NSA, Homeland Security issue ‘cease and desist’ letters to novelty store owner
allan01
Nov 2013
#57
Parodies are protected political speech. In other times, they would lose on this in court.
1monster
Nov 2013
#65
These don't sound like anything the NSA or HS would be printing on their Tees...
1monster
Nov 2013
#72
A Federal agency probably has the right to control use of its seal as part of its property
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#71
Good point! Think of what the Mitt Romney's of the world would do with that seal! nt
adirondacker
Nov 2013
#80
It's very common for Federal agencies to control use of their logos and insignia:
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#85
I'm one that realizes the importance of not plagiarizing agencies symbols. Do you recall the
adirondacker
Nov 2013
#87
I actually intended to post #85 in response to the OP but evidently goofed
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#107
Does the Moon family still own the Washington Times? Is Judicial Watch still an ultra-conservative
progree
Nov 2013
#74
The Moonie Times missed the real story (heard it last summer). The news is the guy sued back...
Pholus
Nov 2013
#78
Don't smoosh everything together and swirl it about into an inedible mess
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#134
Enjoy mucking your way through the bogs and swamplands! And good luck having any real effect!
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#137
... the Zazzle team wasn't a fan, apparently, and they removed McCall's NSA-themed products
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#120
Let's review what we know: (1) the NSA does not appear to have contacted McCall directly;
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#127
Aside from answering my question, you've expressed your opinion voluminously.
Indi Guy
Nov 2013
#135