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Jesus Malverde

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31. Maybe this will add some perspective

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:30 PM

Nov 2013

As long as Israel is fighting recognition of an independent Palestinian state, the partnership between Hamas and Fatah serves Israel's agenda. It can wave on the international scene the Hamas threat to torpedo a Palestinian state, and it can rely on Hamas to provide Israel with pretexts for blocking the diplomatic process. Because, without the Gaza Strip there is no Palestinian state and without Hamas there is no Gaza.

Thus, Israel and Hamas have succeeded in transforming Hamas into one of the core issues to be resolved ahead of an agreement. As far as Israel is concerned, this is a safe "core issue," because it carries no international pressure to recognize Hamas. Hamas is the best guarantee Israel has at this time for preserving the status quo vis a vis the Palestinians. The result is that anyone who talks about destroying Hamas undermines the strategic interest of Benjamin Netanyahu. Without Hamas there is no excuse for delaying a Palestinian state.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/it-s-a-good-thing-for-israel-that-hamas-exists-1.380352

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Report: Swiss scientists find at least 18 times normal levels of Polonium in Arafat's Bones [View all] Hissyspit Nov 2013 OP

??? The russians found no polonium-poisoning. DetlefK Nov 2013 #1

I doubt they used gamma radiation. AngryAmish Nov 2013 #3

You misunderstood. They aren't turning Arafat into Hulk. The other way round. DetlefK Nov 2013 #11

and the Russians are among the main suspects for having used this method in the past VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #5

Yes... I'd surely be more likely to believe the Swiss scientists, all things being equal hlthe2b Nov 2013 #9

I am not buying this Scairp Nov 2013 #64

Russia has been known to *use* this material in this way... so... AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #7

"Our chief investigator in the death of christx30 Nov 2013 #49

Well, one possibility Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #15

That was later retracted by the Russian agency dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #24

Isn't that like asking the Mafia NickB79 Nov 2013 #47

Well, damn Scootaloo Nov 2013 #2

after the story of the original person who died from it PatrynXX Nov 2013 #4

Scary. Horrible way to go. Ava Gadro Nov 2013 #54

I was as well, but... still unanswered questions here, like 'who benefits'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #8

Excellent Question... mpcamb Nov 2013 #34

The guys who were next in line, perhaps? nt MADem Nov 2013 #52

Notice the word above, "decaying." Archae Nov 2013 #6

Israel wanted Arafat dead so they could replace him with Hamas and the CIA controlled abbas. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #12

Odd, I thought conspiracy theories were a big no no or have the rules changed? cstanleytech Nov 2013 #23

I'd take that up with the wall street journal. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #29

Except it was you posting here not the wall street journal. nt cstanleytech Nov 2013 #30

Maybe this will add some perspective Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #31

So other than opinion pieces that have conspiracy theories over why x might have done x cstanleytech Nov 2013 #32

I often wonder if those that denounce conspiriacy theorists LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #33

And I often wonder why people believe in conspiracy theories like cstanleytech Nov 2013 #37

You proved my point LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #42

Thats because by definition all conspiracy theories belong in the same boat. cstanleytech Nov 2013 #45

Nope. Weak argument. You're busted. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #60

Well, gosh, you know, you can go back, really 60 or 70 years. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #35

Look, I am not saying its impossible cstanleytech Nov 2013 #36

It was from democracy now. thanks for playing...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #38

So? Conspiracy bs is still conspiracy bs regardless of source. nt cstanleytech Nov 2013 #40

The BBC covered this story on their morning news programme two days ago.It's not CT. It's news. MADem Nov 2013 #53

Oh, good Lord. bitchkitty Nov 2013 #46

Provide the proof otherwise be the one who is obtuse. nt cstanleytech Nov 2013 #48

What has happened here is exactly what one expects in a scientific investigation: bemildred Nov 2013 #55

That is pretty much how BBC played it, but my sense was they felt it was slightly more than MADem Nov 2013 #56

Well yeah, don't want to jump to any conclusions. bemildred Nov 2013 #57

Yes. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #61

I'll take note of it if you tell me what line to look in... HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #13

Oh shit, here we go. MicaelS Nov 2013 #10

So? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #39

So he was smuggling Polonium? That bastard! Orrex Nov 2013 #14

Did they measure the assholium too? Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #16

wow. just heard this on the Majority Report as well. nashville_brook Nov 2013 #17

Hmm, which is the closest nuclear power to Palestine? ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2013 #18

Polonium-210 has some common industrial applications hack89 Nov 2013 #21

Wait how can that be true when so so many people laughed It off as insane ??? lunasun Nov 2013 #19

DU's take on it: 1000words Nov 2013 #27

Because there are a bunch of people who don't understand how the world works BlueStreak Nov 2013 #28

Lets see what the University Centre of Legal Medicine actually says hack89 Nov 2013 #20

And perhaps 2naSalit Nov 2013 #25

Suspects? Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #22

Funny they were saying it was thallium before, now it is polonium? lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #26

Report on Arafat More ‘Soap Opera’ Than Science, Palmor Says Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #41

"As an observer from the side," elleng Nov 2013 #43

Buenos días, Jesus. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #62

Hola Ghost, estoy celoso si vives en las canarias... Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #63

Saludos. Sí. Islas afortunadas. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #67

Russian report stirs new confusion in Arafat death Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #44

'normal level of polonium', is exactly how much? quadrature Nov 2013 #50

I thought they killed him...whosoever "they" might be. MADem Nov 2013 #51

Why do this? Ash_F Nov 2013 #58

Color me skeptical - it's been 23 Po-210 half-lives since he died. Puts the numbers off the charts. sir pball Nov 2013 #59

Do people carry around a steady amount of Po-210 while alive? Ash_F Nov 2013 #65

I don't know how much we normally carry, if any, but sir pball Nov 2013 #66