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62. Yes, that's Elon's promise.. from a salesman.

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 02:15 PM

Nov 2013

Yes you can, but what do we have NOW. Why is Tesla selling to China which has 70% coal based electricity? What is our current rate of transition to renewable clean sources of electricity?

What's really poor reasoning is to extrapolate future energy use from the promises of a salesman.

The only way to stop global warning ("climate change" if you like that better) is to STOP using energy NOW drastically. That means taking public transportation, bicycling, walking. Science demands it, but business (and greed) avoids it.

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Third Tesla Model S electric car catches fire [View all] Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 OP

Yawn. Scuba Nov 2013 #1

Contextual facts are always helpful in these matters. daleo Nov 2013 #15

I saw two different Camaros on fire recently Plucketeer Nov 2013 #30

Bad comparison seveneyes Nov 2013 #40

Car fires in gasoline cars are often due to poor maintenance Major Nikon Nov 2013 #65

Thanks for the links! I was half-way listening to the radio story on this, petronius Nov 2013 #43

Buy one and you're going to DIE!!!! (According to the Moonie Times)... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #2

Non Washington Times versions of the story... PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #3

Something flammable in an automobile? jberryhill Nov 2013 #4

Zero injuries. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #5

If most people knew what was happening in their internal combustion engine Auggie Nov 2013 #6

Ditto! SoapBox Nov 2013 #7

Rupture the battery of a Tesla Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #13

Same with ICE engine Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #18

I am not aware of any fire warning system on current model Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #21

If enough people ask for that feature, they will include it in the future Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #24

Smoke detectors don't prevent fires Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #31

Trial and error Plucketeer Nov 2013 #32

We "need" electric cars? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #35

Well... Plucketeer Nov 2013 #44

Electric cars replace oil with electricity FarrenH Nov 2013 #50

Yes, that's Elon's promise.. from a salesman. Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #62

It does not require coal. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #53

My friends uncle died back in the day due to clutch explosion snooper2 Nov 2013 #56

That bites mconnors Nov 2013 #8

Engineering is not at fault Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #10

The Leaf is also a wussie car with a low-energy powerpack. Lighter and slower. n/t TheBlackAdder Nov 2013 #9

Hey, some of us plan on getting one Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #12

I wonder where the Leaf battery is located? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #19

Ah! I have read your profile Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #22

And don't let that battery discharge completely! solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #47

Not sure I agree with your conclusions Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #11

What were my initial conclusions? new "conclusion" 1/714 fires = death Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #16

You seem to me to have some axe to grind with Teslas Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #20

Leaf has how many miles on the road? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #23

Again, I have read your profile Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #28

Using the invalid 250mil vs 20,000 stats... Model S fires will exceed national average in 6 months Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #36

And in the same six weeks time Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #42

1/6666 fires for Model S EXCEEDS 2010 rate of 1/11,403 fires from all cars Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #41

Teslas have failsafes upon failsafes looking for problems like fires. onehandle Nov 2013 #14

Failsafes upon failsafes? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #17

'Looking for,' not preventing. onehandle Nov 2013 #27

3rd Fire in Smyrna Tenn where Nissan Leaf is produced Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #25

what kind of damage would have been done to other cars if the same thing happened ? JI7 Nov 2013 #26

OMG! Tesla is worse than ACA! Doom! Dogs and cats having sex. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #29

yeah, lets blame the tesla fire on Obama. olddad56 Nov 2013 #34

Who's Blaming Obama? - Taxpayer Subsidies Helped Tesla Motors, So Why Does Elon Musk Slam Them? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #37

While unfortunate... sendero Nov 2013 #33

guess who had a similiar problem? madrchsod Nov 2013 #38

Sure there is a lot more to it. Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2013 #39

My Brother-in-Law had a regular car that caught on fire a month after he got it... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #45

My Dad owned a Ford that caught fire and burned to slag while parked and empty. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #46

Apparently they do ... Nihil Nov 2013 #48

Moonie Times? You mean CIA.... Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #57

In other news, Tesla Motors cars are reported to actually be cars. truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #49

Walking away from car fire is nothing amazing. Happens all the time. What are the facts? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #61

It seems to me... jmowreader Nov 2013 #51

Washington Times - Attacking a Stock Price JackRiddler Nov 2013 #52

Shame on me? 3 fires in 6 weeks is well above national average & Q2 Q3 Loss Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #59

Well, at least you are able to get out of the car without an explosion.. snooper2 Nov 2013 #54

You are out, but that doesn't mean there is no explosion after that jakeXT Nov 2013 #55

I used to have a pinto. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #58

Tesla Model S taylor2545 Nov 2013 #60

Hello ~ taylor2545 In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #63

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #68

Seems to me Tesla is a car for rich folk Socialistlemur Nov 2013 #64

$90,000 average selling price Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #66

Sounds like the battery packs just need some armoring *shrug* sir pball Nov 2013 #67