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56. while i apprcieciate the attention you have brought to this problem

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:05 PM

Nov 2013

you do not know if humans dropped the vote or of machines dropped the vote

the person receiving the tape results after election closes is rarely the same person that programmed the machine and neither of those people are the same as the person that records the vote for the state

there are just so many layers of obstruction it is difficult to pinpoint blame but taking machines out of it, having people hand count paper ballots on camera would be a huge step in correct direction

http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/webdocs/electionresultschangelogs/20131105.pdf

read thru this list of "corrections", numbers fly in every direction, many with no documentation except "reported wrong from precinct and that can be human err or that an entire machines totals were dropped when they were compiled at voting location

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This is great news Gothmog Nov 2013 #1

For the sheer optics of it, it's good news. A clean sweep of Virginia is symbolic. randome Nov 2013 #4

Plus, we've reached the stage where a mob of GOP operatives in suits scream for the count to go on. Coyotl Nov 2013 #6

SWEET! randome Nov 2013 #19

Poetic Justice!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #29

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Not entirely marsis Nov 2013 #38

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No, much slower pace than that Ash_F Nov 2013 #83

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Look forward not backwards zipplewrath Nov 2013 #11

Some tweeting about an investigation. Human "errors" need to be checked into. Coyotl Nov 2013 #22

You have evidence? Then present it. onenote Nov 2013 #36

Paper Ballots only Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #7

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You wouldn't necessarily know if there were issues. Wilms Nov 2013 #17

thanks Wilms JanT Nov 2013 #44

Yup gopiscrap Nov 2013 #32

thank you gopiscrap JanT Nov 2013 #37

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Paper ballots PLUS a law that allows "manual" recounting freedom fighter jh Nov 2013 #18

For recounts go total old school. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #20

Sounds good. freedom fighter jh Nov 2013 #27

And why not count them as they are cast? zeemike Nov 2013 #31

Issues with secret ballots Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #34

Well if the counters could not see the voter that would take care of that. zeemike Nov 2013 #41

Something like that seems easiest. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #43

That sounds like it would work too zeemike Nov 2013 #45

To unprivatize the Republic Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #47

That would require specially-built rooms everywhere muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #42

Or portable screens. zeemike Nov 2013 #46

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That's New Hampshire, with a smaller population than my county and... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #88

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while i apprcieciate the attention you have brought to this problem questionseverything Nov 2013 #56

Today's Richmond review revealed that a Dem-rich precinct was not counted. Coyotl Nov 2013 #57

yes but you do not know questionseverything Nov 2013 #58

We know tomorrow is the certification deadline for counties to report to the SBE. Coyotl Nov 2013 #60

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K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #21

These Republican fuckers can't even win when they cheat. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #23

Stop counting the votes, we have a winner! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #28

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Kudos! I hope your car gets better soon. Coyotl Nov 2013 #50

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Kick! n/t Tx4obama Nov 2013 #61

Go! blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #66

Check the coverage on Rachel Maddow Coyotl Nov 2013 #67

Thanks for Your vigilance in keeping us up to date Coyotl!! K&R! hue Nov 2013 #68

Bradblog also keeping up on this topic chknltl Nov 2013 #70

Tea Party Nation has a question that needs an answer: Coyotl Nov 2013 #71

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Can we please get some real news here, with details on pertinent questions? wikiguyjd Nov 2013 #76

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I have been an election judge Gothmog Nov 2013 #79

as i said the jbc is the second machine questionseverything Nov 2013 #80

I agree Gothmog Nov 2013 #84

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #81

Mark Herring (D) has won #VAAG by 163 votes with ALL ballots counted! Coyotl Nov 2013 #85

Read that that number will likely be insurmountable in a recount Neurotica Nov 2013 #87

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