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(17,784 posts) Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:30 PM Nov 2013

Armed protesters rattle Texas moms' gun-control meeting [Updated - Police Were Called] [View all]

Source: USA Today

The sudden appearance of about 40 armed men outside a Dallas-area restaurant this weekend was the latest confrontation between an open-carry gun-rights group and a mothers group advocating gun control that was meeting inside.

Police monitored the incident at the Blue Mesa Grill in Arlington, Texas, but took no action because it is legal to carry long guns openly in Texas.

"We are aware that a group did gather in a shopping area in Arlington Saturday," Tiara Ellis Richard of the Arlington Police office of communication said in an e-mail to USA TODAY. "Officers were notified and arrived at the location. There were no issues that we are aware of, and no arrests occurred."

One of four women who were meeting Saturday tried to file a police complaint on Monday but failed because she was told that no law had been violated, a spokeswoman for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense said Monday.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/11/moms-demand-action-open-carry-texas-guns-rifles/3497895/

This was reported earlier, but there were no reports in the initial stories about police. Several folks posted on an earlier thread that this was either a false flag operation or that the story was bogus because no police were called or arrived at the scene.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024011323

This updated story shows that police were called, but did nothing because open carry laws are legal in Texas, and that the manager did call 911 shortly after the armed group arrived. Thus, even the manager thought that the group looked threatening. Of course, the gun group insisted that there were peacefully assembling albeit with their guns drawn.

I guess next thing we will have the KKK say that they were just peacefully burning a cross and waving confederate flags in front of the home of an African American, but they secured the proper permits for an open fire, so it was okay.

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Armed protesters rattle Texas moms' gun-control meeting [Updated - Police Were Called] [View all] TomCADem Nov 2013 OP

If forty armed black men had suddenly appeared... last1standing Nov 2013 #1

+1. jsr Nov 2013 #9

There are just no two ways about that! 2naSalit Nov 2013 #39

You mean like this? Ain't saying it's bad/its good, just saying it is what it is ........ marble falls Nov 2013 #45

I seem to recognize that photo, thucythucy Nov 2013 #48

My point is no point, Someone speculated on what would happen if a minority showed up armed.... marble falls Nov 2013 #49

+1. (nt) Paladin Nov 2013 #53

The OCT photo angle was deceitfully chosen to make it look menacing. Lasher Nov 2013 #61

So instead of menacing, the open carry group looks brain dead. Paladin Nov 2013 #63

You might be right, but should they have been arrested for looking brain dead? Lasher Nov 2013 #64

I'm against deliberate intimidation via force of arms in peaceful public areas. Paladin Nov 2013 #65

You just said they look brain dead instead of menacing. Lasher Nov 2013 #66

There is no comparison between the Panthers and the Teabillies once you get past legally armed. marble falls Nov 2013 #71

Toataly reasonable and accurate opinion. marble falls Nov 2013 #69

Not just yes, but HELL yes. The Panthers were making a political statement and the POS buttheads... marble falls Nov 2013 #68

You made a good point upthread, even if you didn't mean to do it. Lasher Nov 2013 #77

Intent is what this issue swings on. The Panthers were making a political expression in the ..... marble falls Nov 2013 #78

Gun Control vs. Gun Rights is inherently political. MDA has a political agenda and OCT has a 24601 Nov 2013 #83

Oh well in that case ..... The difference being the idiots were armed and the moms weren't. marble falls Nov 2013 #84

Both groups exercised their right to choose to be armed lawfully, or not. The difference is that 24601 Nov 2013 #86

Thanks for sharing, but they are still idiots. /nt Ash_F Nov 2013 #72

No doubt. They were and presumably still are idiots. marble falls Nov 2013 #74

That is a fair observation. Lasher Nov 2013 #75

Your "point is no point"? thucythucy Nov 2013 #79

1. Who's on first? ..... marble falls Nov 2013 #80

That's it? thucythucy Nov 2013 #81

That's it thucy, go enjoy your evening. marble falls Nov 2013 #85

A-fuckin'-men! Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2013 #51

Gregorio Cortez Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #58

every time white guys talk about the right to open carry show them this: yurbud Nov 2013 #88

Those yahoos were doing more than just open carrying. Intimidation is more like it. Hoyt Nov 2013 #2

Exactly Hoyt. Open Carry is very different from having guns drawn when there is Marie Marie Nov 2013 #8

And showing up as an organized group. cui bono Nov 2013 #33

Probably, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #18

Maybe the law didn't look hard enough. Clearly intimidation, but it's Texas so a bunch Hoyt Nov 2013 #20

Well, I've read every post on this issue several times already Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #25

So says the apologist for this latest bunch of gun nutters......... kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #76

They specifically STALKED those women. Also brandishing is not legal. elehhhhna Nov 2013 #54

I guess they call themselves "patriots"? Zambero Nov 2013 #3

short peckered punks (NT) The Wizard Nov 2013 #47

never understood why we have to wait until they kill the first victim before they are criminal dembotoz Nov 2013 #4

Such "he-men" those brave Texas gun-toters. Rounded up the posse to git 'em those uppity libdem4life Nov 2013 #5

It took forty cowards to intimidate four unarmed women. dougg Nov 2013 #6

Check out post #460 here: Keefer Nov 2013 #7

Bullshit right-wing propaganda. n/t mwrguy Nov 2013 #11

I just posted Keefer Nov 2013 #12

Gun owners are the largest terrorist group in America mwrguy Nov 2013 #10

For the life of me, I never realized 39% of Americans were terrorists. Lasher Nov 2013 #67

Man, I carry a firearm for my job, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #70

Wimps masquerading as bad asses neoconsaredicks Nov 2013 #13

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #40

Totally legal to hold people hostage for 2 hours PatrynXX Nov 2013 #14

In TX. it's legal to open carry long guns, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #19

But it is clearly illegal to... TomCADem Nov 2013 #29

As I said, take it up with the police, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #30

Intentionally or knowingly putting another person in fear of imminent bodily injury... TomCADem Nov 2013 #22

it's a good thing no one in the restaurant decided they needed to "stand their ground" yurbud Nov 2013 #15

Good point. The moms did feel threatened. tblue Nov 2013 #57

I saw a PBS Frontline episode on wrongly convicted guys cleared with DNA and the response of judges yurbud Nov 2013 #60

Where are they seeing 40 people? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #16

Yeah right, that makes it OK. Hoyt Nov 2013 #21

Count them yourself, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #23

One ignorant gun humper intimidating those unarmed women is too many. Apparently OK with you. Hoyt Nov 2013 #24

Do you see 40 armed people in that photo? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #26

40, 15, or just 1 ignorant gun intimidator is way too many in this case. Hoyt Nov 2013 #27

Is It Relevant Whether Or Not The Photo Has Everyone? TomCADem Nov 2013 #28

I just asked a question dude. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #31

We've answered you, you just don't get it. Hoyt Nov 2013 #32

That's funny, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #34

They got it close enough. The bigots in the open carry group have been ticked since Hoyt Nov 2013 #42

Perhaps the photo didn't capture all the participants. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #55

That's a distinct possibility. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #56

I Will Give You The Benefit Of The Doubt... TomCADem Nov 2013 #35

What these foolish idiots did is not ok, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #36

Stand Your Ground for the gun nuts. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #17

so the Mesa Grill restaurant must have allowed them or were they on the public space? Sunlei Nov 2013 #37

Hard to tell from the photo, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #38

So it took 40 armed men Turbineguy Nov 2013 #41

they should have been charged with distorderly conduct rdking647 Nov 2013 #43

The police seem to disagree, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #50

LBN? Seems like yet another repeat. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #44

Story's been updated. Hence the new thread. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #46

If there is an important new development in a story, a new LBN thread is justified. Lasher Nov 2013 #87

Arlington PD SUCKS! Afraid to enforce the LAW! rdharma Nov 2013 #52

BLUE MESA!!! We had a DU Meet-up there!!! in 2005! Fro the Archives/ WITH PCS of DUERS who attended BeHereNow Nov 2013 #59

Juanita Jean thinks that these idiots are the wee winkie parade Gothmog Nov 2013 #62

to me it always seems to be about this complete lack of self awareness booley Nov 2013 #73

Bunch of cowardly assholes tabasco Nov 2013 #82