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happyslug

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6. Riots tend to be economic related.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:41 PM
Nov 2013

Racism is often stated in Riots, but it is rarely the reason. This started as a peaceful march, and sounds like it was mostly peaceful:

The violence started when a few dozen youths, their faces covered by balaclavas and football scarves, broke off from the procession into a side street and started attacking a building where left-wing radicals occupied a squat.

The Russians have their own prospective on this riot:

"This is where it happened. Today is the day of Poland's independence. The most important thing - independence from Russia. Polish are always fighting with someone here, Russia is still an enemy. Media and politics are saying that all the problems in Poland come from Russia. And today, many people who gathered for March are bandits, nationalists. They gather, walk every year through half of Warsaw, and each year incidents happen. It is the first time though when the Russian embassy was attacked. They have demonstrations every year, but it was the first time when they threw petrol bombs. They have set fire to the police booth, wanted to climb over the fence, but the police acted well, a large number of Polish officers interfered very quickly"

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_11_11/Riots-in-Warsaw-Russian-embassy-attacked-reports-1174/

A group of about 60 young men, some with balaclavas and scarves covering their faces, broke away from a far-right march through the center of Warsaw and started attacking a building where left-wing squatters had hung a banner.

Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_11_11/Riots-in-Warsaw-Russian-embassy-attacked-reports-1174/

Most of Sunday's 100,000-person National Day march was peaceful.

http://rt.com/news/poland-clashes-independence-day-463/

Sounds like a group of 60 Right wing radicals decided to use the March as a staging point to attack a similar number of lefties holding a "squat".

A report from the "Squat" that was attacked, It is held by lefties but the the first object of the 60 right wingers:

http://en.squat.net/tag/poland/

Here is they statement on the attack, please note it is computer translated from Polish:

Statement by the collective "Ambulance" on the attack
November 12th, 2013
At about 15.45 the community center clinic przypuszczono planned attack by the so-called. "March of Independence". Only by mastering and cold-blooded residents and residents of the building, managed to fend off the nationalist aggression and there were no victims, only a few wounded.

The neo-fascists were not prepared to comment on the matter in the media and immediately informed that the persons present in the squat attacked from the roof of their march stones. For obvious reasons this was not possible, since the end of the street. Shell, where there is a building, is located about 200 meters from the street. Marshal, he passed nationalist march.

As recorded in several films, paramilitary formation called the Guard March of Independence, which was to secure the assembly, at the height of st. Shells parted to allow the passage of armed and prepared to attack bojówce in force of several hundred people. Participants in the March of Independence of flares, stones and bottles stormed into the Clinic. Nationalists set fire to one car, destroyed another and damaged the building, trying to get to us, but fortunately we were able to repel the attack. This was achieved only by wartom issued earlier on the roof (we received death threats for a long time) and the rapid response of hybrid extinguishing thrown into the race.

We note that although clusters of police even just a few hundred meters, it's been 20 minutes the staff had any intervention. If we listen to the recommendations of the police and ignored the threat, squat now would be burned.

Goebbels propaganda National Movement traditionally tries to turn the event into hooliganism - despite the fact that it was officially designated March released militants fire, and after the attack allowed and helped them to escape. We are now preparing for the next attack, be vigilant!

The anti-fascist salute,
Collective Clinic


http://przychodnia.bzzz.net/

It sounds like a 60 man "team" or right wingers wanted to attack some lefties and decided the lefties squatting in an apartment building was a good target. The eighties seems to have called ahead, more to make sure it any attack would look like an even fight then any thing else. The Lefties complain that the Police did not respond as soon as they could have, but 20 minutes response time while over viewing a march that the Police feared would turn violent, would still be in reasonable (i.e. The delay MAY have been caused by the police being busy elsewhere OR may have been police policy, the delay itself proves nothing).

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