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pnwmom

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48. Well, considering that the whole case was a railroad job,
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:05 PM
Nov 2013

with a prosecuting attorney playing for African American votes, I guess maybe they should have tried for a change in venue.

And they would have deserved one.

I disagree about Nifong being "behind the 8 ball and painted into a corner." HE CHOSE THIS CASE TO PROSECUTE. He knew from almost the very outset of this case that the students were likely innocent and chose to prosecute anyway. By a month in, when the DNA results came back, he knew for sure. But his election was coming up in six months and he didn't want to drop the case. So he hid the DNA tests for most of a year.

It's one thing to take "extra-legal" methods when you firmly believe in the guilt of the person you're going after, but are just having trouble proving it; quite another to take these same methods when you KNOW they aren't guilty, but are personally benefiting from the publicity.

I do agree with you about prosecutors and judges being elected to their positions -- it leads to all kinds of bad outcomes.

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Disappointed with the SCOTUS decision not to review this law. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #1
The USSC has routinely upheld the collection of DNA ans other personal biological information Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #14
Wow. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #2
I remember when those boys were exonerated Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #3
Where are they now? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #7
I see nothing mentioned about the foundation... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #11
They and their families went through hell for almost a year, pnwmom Nov 2013 #27
Like I said... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #30
They needed to spend millions because that's what the best defense lawyers pnwmom Nov 2013 #33
They were *NEVER* going to plea Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #34
If they thought that they wouldn't have had to put on such a serious defense. pnwmom Nov 2013 #36
An all-white jury convicting upper-class white, student-athlete defendants Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #40
Why on earth would you expect an all-white jury in Durham, North Carolina? pnwmom Nov 2013 #41
Because THAT is what proper defense attorneys do Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #43
Wrong. Defense attorneys can't turn down more than a handful of jurors pnwmom Nov 2013 #45
They couldn't have gotten the venue moved?? Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #47
Well, considering that the whole case was a railroad job, pnwmom Nov 2013 #48
So you agree they would have likely gotten a change in venue Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #50
No, I don't think the parents would have spent their millions on the defense pnwmom Nov 2013 #51
Either way their sons got off, the parents recouped their millions in the settlements Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #52
Why exactly shouldn't they lead happy, successful lives? LisaL Nov 2013 #59
I'm not faulting them for anything Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #61
It's almost like you are pissed off that they didn't do it snooper2 Nov 2013 #53
I dunno... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #54
Thank you for the info! pnwmom Nov 2013 #26
There was no probable cause for demanding DNA pnwmom Nov 2013 #15
If there's a murder at a party Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #22
No, not everyone gets fingerprinted, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #24
Entirely different. If there is a murder at a party, there is no victim pnwmom Nov 2013 #25
no, they don't. Paolo123 Nov 2013 #44
Do we stop at a small party. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #85
Two of the young men who sued were NOT ever charged in this case. pnwmom Nov 2013 #19
self-delete pnwmom Nov 2013 #87
Very Sad - that woman needed a rehab and people FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #4
This case shows the flaw in a system where an anonymous accuser cpwm17 Nov 2013 #5
The real tragedy is how many of these 'college team' rapes continue to get covered up Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #6
This case shows that the best system has to maintain innocent until proven guilty cpwm17 Nov 2013 #8
It wasn't "totally unfair", since they're all free Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #16
It was totally unfair. The prosecution was deliberately withholding pnwmom Nov 2013 #31
That's the point -- The money and high-power legal defense Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #32
I absolutely thought there was a strong chance that they would serve time, pnwmom Nov 2013 #35
If the accuser was white, then maybe Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #38
There are plenty of people in Durham who share your attitudes pnwmom Nov 2013 #39
I'm black, so I'd never have been chosen for the jury in the first place Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #42
Do you understand that each side only gets to turn away a certain pnwmom Nov 2013 #46
I hesitate to call Durham "very" liberal, but that's just me Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #49
Lots of cases with young privileged defendants not getting off. LisaL Nov 2013 #58
This one's a hopeless case.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #68
If there are particular cases you want attention to, pnwmom Nov 2013 #74
Jeez..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #76
The biggest criminal, IMO, in this whole tragic affair Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #9
Sadly, I know of much worse cases of prosecutorial "hijinks" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #13
I can't argue that, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #18
Then you should be thanking the Duke students for getting pnwmom Nov 2013 #37
+1 Dr. Strange Nov 2013 #65
You should blame the false accuser for making it harder for other women. pnwmom Nov 2013 #21
She definitely made it harder for black women, at least Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #55
Although she is mentally ill, so there's that. pnwmom Nov 2013 #57
Yeah, if only the Duke boys Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #60
They are only 26 years old. No one knows how they will spend their lives. pnwmom Nov 2013 #62
Trayvon Martin is more important to me than Nifong at the moment Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #63
Finnerty didn't come from a wealthy family. He's the one you accused pnwmom Nov 2013 #70
I'm pretty sure the people's "debt of gratitude" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #72
This has been happening to Black men for decades..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #64
I'm not acting like this was the greatest injustice cpwm17 Nov 2013 #66
Well as a Black man, I'm taking it that way.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #67
Don't change history cpwm17 Nov 2013 #69
And how the fuck is this different from.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #71
Who is asking YOU to feel more for them? But why are you trying pnwmom Nov 2013 #75
Yada Yada Yada BronxBoy Nov 2013 #77
I was just as disturbed when prosecutors were dropping the case pnwmom Nov 2013 #79
Yep..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #80
In the case you cited, what the woman did was just as heinous pnwmom Nov 2013 #73
Go read up on the Central Park 5 BronxBoy Nov 2013 #81
What is the point of comparing one wrongful prosecution pnwmom Nov 2013 #82
Because..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #83
And that inequality actually worked against the Duke students pnwmom Nov 2013 #84
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #10
Then you need to read more. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #12
No, it wasn't. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #20
What are you talking about? Rape was non-existent in this case. pnwmom Nov 2013 #23
"The State Attorney General ...officially declared all three students 'innocent....' " mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #28
Thank you. It's so frustrating that even after that, even all these years later, pnwmom Nov 2013 #29
You're full of it. nt Codeine Nov 2013 #56
Well, this is discouraging --not a good ruling for those pnwmom Nov 2013 #17
The whole thing was a travesty of justice bluestateguy Nov 2013 #78
"As for Crystal Mangum, the stripper who filed the claim:" mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #86
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