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49. I hesitate to call Durham "very" liberal, but that's just me

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:13 PM

Nov 2013

and my earlier point still stands: The Duke boys would have gotten off easily no matter what the evidence showed -- unless there was something completely irrefutable like a videotape; but juries in the past have ignored those, too (Rodney King, Oscar Grant)...

Can you cite any high-profile case where young, privileged defendants with influential parents didn't get off? (or at the most, got away with the proverbial slap on the wrist?)

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Supreme Court declines second Duke lacrosse appeal [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 OP

Disappointed with the SCOTUS decision not to review this law. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #1

The USSC has routinely upheld the collection of DNA ans other personal biological information Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #14

Wow. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #2

I remember when those boys were exonerated Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #3

Where are they now? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #7

I see nothing mentioned about the foundation... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #11

They and their families went through hell for almost a year, pnwmom Nov 2013 #27

Like I said... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #30

They needed to spend millions because that's what the best defense lawyers pnwmom Nov 2013 #33

They were *NEVER* going to plea Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #34

If they thought that they wouldn't have had to put on such a serious defense. pnwmom Nov 2013 #36

An all-white jury convicting upper-class white, student-athlete defendants Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #40

Why on earth would you expect an all-white jury in Durham, North Carolina? pnwmom Nov 2013 #41

Because THAT is what proper defense attorneys do Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #43

Wrong. Defense attorneys can't turn down more than a handful of jurors pnwmom Nov 2013 #45

They couldn't have gotten the venue moved?? Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #47

Well, considering that the whole case was a railroad job, pnwmom Nov 2013 #48

So you agree they would have likely gotten a change in venue Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #50

No, I don't think the parents would have spent their millions on the defense pnwmom Nov 2013 #51

Either way their sons got off, the parents recouped their millions in the settlements Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #52

Why exactly shouldn't they lead happy, successful lives? LisaL Nov 2013 #59

I'm not faulting them for anything Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #61

It's almost like you are pissed off that they didn't do it snooper2 Nov 2013 #53

I dunno... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #54

Thank you for the info! pnwmom Nov 2013 #26

There was no probable cause for demanding DNA pnwmom Nov 2013 #15

If there's a murder at a party Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #22

No, not everyone gets fingerprinted, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #24

Entirely different. If there is a murder at a party, there is no victim pnwmom Nov 2013 #25

no, they don't. Paolo123 Nov 2013 #44

Do we stop at a small party. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #85

Two of the young men who sued were NOT ever charged in this case. pnwmom Nov 2013 #19

self-delete pnwmom Nov 2013 #87

Very Sad - that woman needed a rehab and people FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #4

This case shows the flaw in a system where an anonymous accuser cpwm17 Nov 2013 #5

The real tragedy is how many of these 'college team' rapes continue to get covered up Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #6

This case shows that the best system has to maintain innocent until proven guilty cpwm17 Nov 2013 #8

It wasn't "totally unfair", since they're all free Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #16

It was totally unfair. The prosecution was deliberately withholding pnwmom Nov 2013 #31

That's the point -- The money and high-power legal defense Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #32

I absolutely thought there was a strong chance that they would serve time, pnwmom Nov 2013 #35

If the accuser was white, then maybe Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #38

There are plenty of people in Durham who share your attitudes pnwmom Nov 2013 #39

I'm black, so I'd never have been chosen for the jury in the first place Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #42

Do you understand that each side only gets to turn away a certain pnwmom Nov 2013 #46

I hesitate to call Durham "very" liberal, but that's just me Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #49

Lots of cases with young privileged defendants not getting off. LisaL Nov 2013 #58

This one's a hopeless case.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #68

If there are particular cases you want attention to, pnwmom Nov 2013 #74

Jeez..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #76

The biggest criminal, IMO, in this whole tragic affair Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #9

Sadly, I know of much worse cases of prosecutorial "hijinks" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #13

I can't argue that, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #18

Then you should be thanking the Duke students for getting pnwmom Nov 2013 #37

+1 Dr. Strange Nov 2013 #65

You should blame the false accuser for making it harder for other women. pnwmom Nov 2013 #21

She definitely made it harder for black women, at least Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #55

Although she is mentally ill, so there's that. pnwmom Nov 2013 #57

Yeah, if only the Duke boys Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #60

They are only 26 years old. No one knows how they will spend their lives. pnwmom Nov 2013 #62

Trayvon Martin is more important to me than Nifong at the moment Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #63

Finnerty didn't come from a wealthy family. He's the one you accused pnwmom Nov 2013 #70

I'm pretty sure the people's "debt of gratitude" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #72

This has been happening to Black men for decades..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #64

I'm not acting like this was the greatest injustice cpwm17 Nov 2013 #66

Well as a Black man, I'm taking it that way.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #67

Don't change history cpwm17 Nov 2013 #69

And how the fuck is this different from.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #71

Who is asking YOU to feel more for them? But why are you trying pnwmom Nov 2013 #75

Yada Yada Yada BronxBoy Nov 2013 #77

I was just as disturbed when prosecutors were dropping the case pnwmom Nov 2013 #79

Yep..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #80

In the case you cited, what the woman did was just as heinous pnwmom Nov 2013 #73

Go read up on the Central Park 5 BronxBoy Nov 2013 #81

What is the point of comparing one wrongful prosecution pnwmom Nov 2013 #82

Because..... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #83

And that inequality actually worked against the Duke students pnwmom Nov 2013 #84

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Then you need to read more. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #12

No, it wasn't. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #20

What are you talking about? Rape was non-existent in this case. pnwmom Nov 2013 #23

"The State Attorney General ...officially declared all three students 'innocent....' " mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #28

Thank you. It's so frustrating that even after that, even all these years later, pnwmom Nov 2013 #29

You're full of it. nt Codeine Nov 2013 #56

Well, this is discouraging --not a good ruling for those pnwmom Nov 2013 #17

The whole thing was a travesty of justice bluestateguy Nov 2013 #78

"As for Crystal Mangum, the stripper who filed the claim:" mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #86